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Strangler Lewis 03-18-2009 12:59 PM

I believe that the Pope's proclamations are only infallible when he declares them to be infallible, which he very rarely does. This is clearly not one of those times.

Cadaverous Pallor 03-18-2009 04:03 PM

Isn't Catholicism over yet?

lashbear 03-18-2009 04:03 PM

anyway, I like the way the pope saved the italian fishing industry by declaring you have to eat fish on fridays.

Alex 03-18-2009 05:55 PM

I know that was just meant as a joke but I looked into that last year during lent and found the answer interesting.

Turns out it is myth that "fish fridays" was established by the pope to help the fishing industry. The original proscription of meat but allowing fish was simply and oddity of how Latin and English differ in their linguistic categorization. To a Latin speaker the word being used when saying "no meat" simply didn't include fish. Its kind of like I were to now make a rule that said "no beef on Tuesdays" but over the next 1000 years the language changed so that "beef" means any animal byproduct. Those people a millennia hence would wonder about the stupidity of being able to eat porkchops while saying we weren't eating beef.

The original practice of lenten fasting, however, over time did became so important to fisheries that when observance of lenten rules began to wane in the 1500s during the Reformation, it was civil government that stepped in and began enforcing lenten fasting specifically to prop up the fisheries.

So it wasn't the pope that did it first but rather those radical upstarts, the kings and queens of England shortly after they took on the mantle of heading the non-papist Church of England in the 1540s.

CoasterMatt 03-18-2009 07:47 PM

Here's an excellent commentary on why the Pope is wrong.

lashbear 03-18-2009 08:17 PM

VAM yet again ! I always assumed it was a furphy, but never went to the bother of looking it up. Fascinating stuff!

Gemini Cricket 03-30-2009 07:21 PM

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