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Pirate Bill 04-09-2009 12:59 PM

Now get off the pot.

BarTopDancer 04-09-2009 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 278053)
Sorry, but that's just petty vengeance. It lowers the dignity of the service members involved and the nation as a whole.

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Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 278073)
I see, so as soon as one soldier (or group) does something wrong the entire worldwide forces of the United States Of America have carte blanche to do whatever the fvck they want.

What's wrong is wrong. Saddam was already heading for the noose, what benefit was there in their actions? Zero.

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis (Post 278079)
It would have been nice to be able to say that our forces conducted themselves better than the people who carried out his execution.

I'm with these guys. We're supposed to be the good guys. Does that mean I condone what Saddam did? Fvck no. Does that mean I didn't find that South Park episode funny? Nope, it was funny. But I don't think we needed to force him to watch it, and I hope the autographed photo was not personalized.

Disneyphile 04-09-2009 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 278086)
I'm with these guys. We're supposed to be the good guys. Does that mean I condone what Saddam did? Fvck no. Does that mean I didn't find that South Park episode funny? Nope, it was funny. But I don't think we needed to force him to watch it, and I hope the autographed photo was not personalized.

Add me to the list.

But, I can understand the pleasure it might bring some people, and they're certainly entitled to it.

But, it's definitely something I personally think was tasteless and a waste of time.

innerSpaceman 04-09-2009 02:12 PM

Yes, i might agree, but it's so piddly compared with the way SOME of our soliders in Iraq treated and continue to treat detainees, that it's hardly worth posting even this much complaint about it.



And, of course, it passes the Roger Rabbit rule of acceptance ... i.e, as long as it was funny.

Betty 04-09-2009 02:12 PM

I think if you put yourself in their shoes, it's easy to see it as a mostly harmless way to feel a little better.

Your friends, coworkers, buddies were blown up, shot to death, or killed in some fashion because of him. You are stuck there without your family because of him (and yeah - I know they enlisted for that but go with me). Is making him watch a silly movie that makes fun of him really all that big of a deal by comparison?

He was a bad man and was made to watch South Park. Oh noes!

JWBear 04-09-2009 03:33 PM

I blame Canada.

Gn2Dlnd 04-09-2009 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Betty (Post 278113)
Your friends, coworkers, buddies were blown up, shot to death, or killed in some fashion because of him. You are stuck there without your family because of him (and yeah - I know they enlisted for that but go with me). Is making him watch a silly movie that makes fun of him really all that big of a deal by comparison?

Well, actually, they were blown up, etc., because of George W. Bush. I don't recall that our invasion of Iraq had anything to do with anything but the potential threat Saddam posed.

To decent sentence structure, apparently.

Pirate Bill 04-09-2009 09:18 PM

I propose that George W. Bush also be forced to watch endless hours of all South Park episodes he's featured in.

BarTopDancer 04-09-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Betty (Post 278113)
I think if you put yourself in their shoes, it's easy to see it as a mostly harmless way to feel a little better.

Your friends, coworkers, buddies were blown up, shot to death, or killed in some fashion because of him. You are stuck there without your family because of him (and yeah - I know they enlisted for that but go with me). Is making him watch a silly movie that makes fun of him really all that big of a deal by comparison?

He was a bad man and was made to watch South Park. Oh noes!

He was a horrible man who did deplorable things. But we're supposed to be the good guys. We're supposed to be bigger than that.

I have no doubt Iraq would have been invaded eventually by some President, but that doesn't mean how we went about invading was right. So ya, those men and women are over there and how they got there (enlisted, re-enlisted, stop-lossed, however) doesn't matter. They are there, they are supposed to be representing the USA and freedom. Not humiliation, degrading behaviors or torture of anyone, regardless of their actions. Saddam got "what was coming" - he was executed by his countrymen. We didn't need to bring excess fuel to the fire.

I'm pretty sure that Kim Jung Il is getting North Korea put on a short list for some sort of invasion. And I don't think that he should be forced to watch Team America: World Police.

I'm not saying those movies or episodes should never have been made. They were hilarious. There was nothing gained but more animosity towards America by making Saddam watch it over and over and over again.

Alex 04-09-2009 10:02 PM

Either it was done with a purpose (in which I tend to doubt it was useful in achieving that purpose but am willing to be proven wrong) or it was just done to be dicks to him.

Regardless of provocation simply doing some to be a dick is, well, dickish.


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