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Yes, it was statuatory rape, but was it consensual (as in she didn't say no)?*
Not that there is anything acceptable with a man having sex with a 13 year old (or really, any 13 year old having sex period). Just curious. *I could look up the case details but I'm at work and don't really want to be Googling that here. I can do it when I am home but I am curious now ;) |
He allegedly gave her alcohol and drugs, so the consensual aspect wouldn't really apply.
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Um, i knew plenty of 13 year-olds who had sex at that age. And I was two of them!
And there were plenty of alcohol and drugs involved, if you must know. |
In addition, the victim reported saying no several times, then stopped.
He should go to trial and receive punishment as deemed by the court. |
He pled down to unlawful sex with a minor. The original charges (which he'd have gone to trial on if he hadn't plead down to lesser charges or rejected the deal instead of fleeing jurisdiction were:
1. Furnishing a controlled substance to a minor. He gave her quaaludes. 2. Lewd or lascivious act upon a child under fourteen. He touched her in illegal ways even if he didn't have sex with her. 3. Unlawful sexual intercourse. He also had sex with her. 4. Rape by use of drugs. Even if she were old enough to consent he rendered her incapable by giving her booze and quaaludes. 5. Perversion. He performed oral sex on her. Ok, not a crime in itself these days but she was unwilling and 13. 6. Sodomy. He performed anal sex on her. Ok, not a crime in itself these days but she was unwilling and 13. Whether one feels that time has ameliorated things somewhat or that Polanski was mistreated by the original judge, it is very much worth keeping in mind that he did an awful thing. That he has not denied doing the awful thing, and that he hasn't ever really expressed remorse so much for having done an awful thing as for how the awful thing has ruined his life. She was in no way a willing participant in what happened to her. And even if she had been, she was of an age almost universally regarded as being incapable of giving consent to a 44 year old man. |
I think all perverts should go to jail. We would all have a pretty good time together.
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I'm not defending anyone, but did he know she was 13 at the time? Was it obvious to all that she was underage?
(not that that absolves him of anything, since he drugged her) |
Interesting. Thanks for the info.
I really didn't know if she was all for it and then he got nailed by statuatory laws or what actually went down. I also didn't know about the drugs. I hope my previous posts didn't sound like I was condoning his behavior. This case isn't something I've followed closely in the past, but it's all over the news now and it doesn't involve missiles coming from Iran so I'm paying a bit more attention to it. Since the victim is going to be in the media spotlight regardless of what he does he should serve his sentence. |
Yes, he knew she was underage even if he didn't know she was 13. She was not a virgin and she had done drugs and alcohol before (but claims not at the same time).
And even if he didn't, the victim at the time testified to the grand jury (you can read it here) that he refused to stop at her request. So even if she had been 44 as well it would have been rape. Here's a recap of her grand jury testimony. Never really been denied and worth keeping in mind when deciding how much sympathy he deserves. Spoiler in case you don't want to read it. Spoiler:
So, even if she had been legal, was she raped? I'd say by most definitions, yes. |
Since Halloween is coming up, I want to watch Rosemary's Baby.
Hmm. He raped a 13 year old. Yeah, I'm thinking he should go to jail for that. |
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