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Gemini Cricket 03-30-2006 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket
Scalia flips people off seconds after attending church and we're fine with that. If that person was someone on the left, he/she would be crucified. Double standard.

In today's Herald:

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Amid a growing national controversy about the gesture U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia made Sunday at the Cathedral of the Holy Cross, the freelance photographer who captured the moment has come forward with the picture.

“It’s inaccurate and deceptive of him to say there was no vulgarity in the moment,” said Peter Smith, the Boston University assistant photojournalism professor who made the shot.

Despite Scalia’s insistence that the Sicilian gesture was not offensive and had been incorrectly characterized by the Herald as obscene, the photographer said the newspaper “got the story right.”
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scaeagles 03-30-2006 10:07 AM

I am not familiar with that gesture at all. I don't see it as "flipping off" - the middle finger is not extended.

What is the history of the gesture?

Not Afraid 03-30-2006 10:09 AM

I've seen this gesture in mafia-style movies. I don't think it's nice, whatever it means.

Gemini Cricket 03-30-2006 10:15 AM

As a recent Sicilian, I know the gesture is an insult. You do it to someone you don't like. If he said that word with, it's really bad.

I'm going with what the photographer said. He knew it was in poor taste.

SacTown Chronic 03-30-2006 10:22 AM

I believe that gesture is considered a non-verbal "fvck you".

Scrooge McSam 03-30-2006 10:23 AM

The gesture is intended as an insult and is generally not considered obscene.

The word he used with the gesture, however, most definitely is.

Think Cheney in the Senate and you've got it ;)

Gemini Cricket 03-30-2006 10:40 AM

Spoiler:
Vaffanculo means "go get fu cked up your as s." I thought he didn't condone such behavior. :D

wendybeth 03-30-2006 10:40 AM

GC, would you please stop being so darned hysterical.;)

Yeah, it's an insult. Very mature, Scalia. Good to know you're on the Supreme Court.

innerSpaceman 03-30-2006 10:43 AM

Not obscene? Um, SacTown got the meaning exactly right.

While I personally don't agree that 'fvck you' is obscene, I think it is commonly considered as such.



I don't consider too much to be obscene. One thing I do, though, is Scalia hearing argument on the Enemy Combatant Detention case this week just after he has publicly stated his decision on the case in advance of it being heard. As a jurist on the land's highest court, that's true obscenity.

Gemini Cricket 03-30-2006 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth
GC, would you please stop being so darned hysterical.;)

You're right, wb. And to not be accused of further histrionics, I'll remove my 'Mission Accomplished' flight suit now.
:D


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