I don't believe I can make it. :(

I enjoyed it. GD did a great job capturing a lot of the film, but I'd add the homages to Un Chien Andelou (sp?) (ants crawling on the hands, animals emerging from wounds, the eye imagery, etc.) which puts it squarely in the surrealist camp for me.

I also enjoy the playing around with symbols - the Tarot elements, the planets ( and the bit of gender-bending reversing the some of the traditional sexes of those rolls) I think they was also some play on the Enneagram (which I believe have their origin in Christian and Sufi mysticism by way of Gurjieff) since that was the prominant symbol of "the master."

All in all a spiritual quest film, which ultimately satirizes traditional spiritualism. There's lots also to say about the closing scene and the "immortality" actually obtained by the questors.

But I'm a sucker for mystical symbolism.

I think this would pair nicely with some Felini

I don't get the sleep deprivation criticism - long held practice of mystics, I'll vouch that the hallucinations obtained through these means give the chemically induced ones a run for the money. But surrealism isn't necessarily about altered states of consciousness, rather about altered states of reality.

In any case, the Haunting should be a hoot.

While the plot and symbolic imagery were interesting to me, the film was such a visual smörgåsbord, it kept me fascinated throughout.

The Haunting is my favorite horror movie.
I don't know what my schedule will be like this weekend.
I want to do this and the subs on Sunday but we'll have to see.
:)

Mojo to NA for knowing how to put in the umlaut and whatever that thing over the "a" is called.




And I KNOW that someone will be letting me know what that thing is called.

No mojo for me. It is the magic of using Firefox ... with spell check.

Drawing a line between psychadelia, surrealism, hallucinations - dude, I can't follow that line of reasoning. This was easily the most tripped out, f'd up, crazy ass sht I've ever seen, and the idea that this is not a trip out movie, not a psychedelic movie, not a movie that would be enhanced by drugs, is be-YOND me. I must see this again.

ETA - while typing this post I decided to pick up a copy at half.com.

Wikipedia says it's a ring.

With all due respect, CP ... I have a wide variety of experience with all sorts of altered states, and have talked with tons of similarly experienced people about the topic.

As €uro correctly pointed out, sleep deprivation is likely the most hallucinative state. But it's hardly the most creative one. There are many altered states which produce bizarre effects ... but I don't necessarily want to see the movies created under them.

I guess the title "holy mountain" and the lauded sponsorship of John Lennon led to expect more of an eastern bent to the film, which instead was too obsessed with christianity for my tastes. And yeah, the "brand" of surrealism was not psychedelic ... and I was not being facetious when I said it all became clear to me when I learned the director got his inspiration by depriving himself of sleep. That is a hallucinatory, but primarily nastyass state of being.




Not that everything fits into tight little boxes of surrealism. As I also said, I was very surprised to learn that the members of Pink Floyd got high exclusively on alcohol ... and yet consistently produced psychedelic works of music.


In any case, holy mountain was just too scattered, random, ugly and infantile for my personal tastes. I'm sorry I didn't like it. There's plenty of surreal art and movies I do enjoy ... but this wasn't one of them.


Ick.

I hope you can make it to both.



But, er, if you can't .... can you bring zapppop's air mattress with you to the Paramount lot - - and throw it over the wall during the cemetery screening? I need it for camping. Thanks, luv.

:cheers: