I'd be surprised if that were the case. She doesn't seem to be thinking that far ahead. While she doesn't have any great love for Ben at this point, I think she still respects his power over what goes on on the island. I think she can be persuaded (especially if, say, Locke convinces her that Ben let him blow up the submarine) but at this point I'm pretty sure she is on board with Ben for the sole reason that she doesn't see any other way off the island.

Of course there is the possiblility that Jack and Julliet are in this together(Recall the look the two shared on the boat leaving Alcatraz). Perhaps they are both trying to defeat Ben at a critical time.

Ben must need Juliet to do something very important and at a very definate time on the beach with our Losties. It can't be just a mere kidnapping as he could have gotten Micheal to do that for him more or less. I don't think it is to spy either as they don't seem to lack any info about the Losties.

The answer to the entire show has been right in front of my face:

Last night they played the hit song Downtown, for the third time in the shows history.


Llyod Braun was a key figure in the early going of this show.....and another show too(Seinfeld)

Interestingly enough, that show also played this very same song right after this exchange:

WILHELM: (pleased) Well then, I guess you'll be heading downtown then,
huh?
GEORGE: Oh, yeah. Downtown. Definitely.
WILHELM: Well, I'm very interested to see how this thing turns out.
GEORGE: (to himself) Yeah, you said it. (to Wilhelm) Uh, excuse me, Mr
Wilhelm. Uh, do you really think... Well, is this downtown trip really
necessary, you know, for the project?
WILHELM: Oh no, you've got to go downtown, George. It's all downtown.
Just like the song says.
GEORGE: The song?
WILHELM: There's your answer. Downtown.

So the answer is hidden within the lyrics of the song.

[Monk's]

George and Jerry in a booth.

JERRY: The song Downtown? You mean the Petula Clark song?

GEORGE: Yeah.

JERRY: You sure he didn't just mention it because you happened to be

Going downtown?

GEORGE: I think he was trying to tell me something, like it had some

sort of a

meaning.

JERRY: Okay, so how does it go?

GEORGE: 'When you're alone, and life is making you lonely, you can

always go...'

JERRY: '... downtown.'

GEORGE: 'Maybe you know some little places to go, where they never

close...'

JERRY: '...downtown.'

GEORGE: Wait a second. 'Little places to go, where they never close.'

What's a little place that never closes?

JERRY: Seven-eleven?

GEORGE: 'Just listen to the music of the traffic, in the city. Linger

on the sidewalk, where the neon lights are pretty.' Where the neon lights are

pretty. The Broadway area?

JERRY: No, that's midtown.

GEORGE: 'The lights are much brighter there. You can forget all your

troubles, forget all your cares, just go...'

JERRY: '...down town.'

GEORGE: 'Things'll be great, when you're...'

JERRY: '...downtown.'

GEORGE: I got nothing, Jerry. Nothing.

JERRY: Well, 'don't hang around and let your troubles surround you.

There are movie shows...

So, was the sub really there to get people off the island or just as a prop? They showed Juliet getting off the sub but never being put on the sub. Ben mentioned the sub as a way to keep his people happy - in the context of people are happy to be here and will defend the island but they need to know they have a way home [and then something about even if it's not an option].

Also, Ben was born on the island, as was Alex and maybe a few other people. When did the fertility issues start taking place?

Anyone else catch the Dharma logo on one of the doctors jumpsuit when Juliet lost the mother? Are the Others part of Dharma?

I was thinking the same thing. And why make Juliet take a pill if the approach to the Island is underwater? It's not like she's going to be peeking thru the periscope and checking her sextant(?)?

Both were "born" on the Island...but I don't think that is where they were concieved there(this was hinted at in the last show when Juliet wanted to try having a woman concieve in Miami, then go to the Island for the birth) Don't know if this means anything but in the middle ages fathers named their son's Benjiman if they lived thru their mothers dying in childbirth.



Nice spot, I didn't catch that.

I can't mojo sleepyjeff for making me actually want to watch Seinfeld for the first time in my life. :snap:

Forgot Juliet's sister had cancer first, right...

Okay, Desmond saved Charlie's life again. Although I had this strange feeling that Charlie might actually die. But this was all a little hook to watch this new character fall out of the sky (literally) and it not being Desmond's girl, although she said his name..

Was it Desmond's girlfriend who was seen at the last scene of season two?

Oh I much liked last week's episode better!

This weeks was interesting all right will see what happens in the next 4 i think they said it was.

The omnipotent woman (Ms. Hawking) from Desmond's previous "flashback" was in the photo with the monk on the monk's desk in the monastery. :D I thought there had to be a reason there was that deliberate camera angle, so I rewound and paused my DVR.

The book he found in the backpack was Catch 22 in another language. Were I a betting man, I'd guess that the parachuter is connected to the Russian (or whatever they were speaking) dudes on the boat that Penny hired to find Desmond (thus the photo).