wow. I hope not. Ive not been there in ages and would love to re-visit it with the Swanksters, especially ones who know whats what there. speaking just for myself, I can do the take your chances camping without a lot of issue.

It certainly is a more logistical challenge.

If we really want to do Yosemite, I suggest we go off season (or early season) and stay at the Lodge.

I'm all for Kings Canyon.
I'm all for Yosemite.
I'd go to both. I'd go to just one.
If thats our cup of tea
Just as long
as I don't see Kevy's Shlong...

:) bornieo's camp swank poem.

Well, let's put Yosemite off the table for now. Camping is only even worth gambling for during the time Gus Gus and Disneyphile are on or getting ready for or recovering from the Cruise (with the further proviso that they've taken 2 weeks off from whatever do that cruise).

So ... assuming we want to camp this year and not lodge this year, let's do King's Canyon in early to mid June.


If we want to Lodge this year, that's a whole different experience. But again, I would recommend it for the earliest possible dates ... late May, early June that may or may not (or june or june not) conflict with the cruise again.


It's just that if we are never going to take a chance on non-reserved White Wolf for Yosemite Swank Camp, I'd like to arrange a lodge trip for this year or next.


I hate to say it ... but this whole mess requires a poll with zilliontul options.

Uh, yeah; don't get me started on THAT detail. :mad:

There's also housekeeping camps and tent cabin options in White Wolf. Also, for 2008 the tentative opening dates and closing of White Wolf are Fri. June 13 to Sun. September 21.


The will often times "unofficially" open the high sierra campgrounds earlier if the roads are clear and the post-winter maintenance has been done. This has been a larger snow year (but not terrible) so it's a crap shoot.


Oh, the other thing to consider about Kings Canyon, because of the wonderful snow pack, the river will be INCREDIBLE and not like the sad river it was last year. Also, the wildflowers will be starting to bloom at that elevation in June, so it should be very pretty in the meadows. BUT, keep in mind, there is not as much to do in Kings Canyon as there is in Sequoia or Yosemite.

Well, that just leaves more time for drinking and...

Oh, wait.

Yup.


I always miss river-chilled crisp white wine when I'm camping in Kings Canyon.


Ok. I've made my own suggestions and recommendations bassed on what i know or have experienced. I've also spent as much time as I have on this today. Unless i get a call back from the ranger, I'm done for now. You guys decide what you want to do.

I don't think I can swing a full week. A long weekend is more what I had in mind. The only weekend that is officially out for me is Fathers day due to a car show I have to run at work.