Methinks it is like the 2007 Camp Swank: some people will arrive earlier and/or stay later than others. I suspect most will just make a long weekend of as was done before. I think the longer number of days is just being alloted for those who want to make a longer trip of it (which I am considering).

Just a thought unrelated to this camping endeavor. But it might ease things for next year if you all just picked a date now for 2009 and said "come hell or high water we'll be camping somewhere on this weekend, we're all creative good hearted people so even if it ends up being a Wal-Mart parking lot we'll have fun. Hold the date and details to be determined later."

Simultaneously trying to pick the when and the where never works smoothly for big group activities in my experience.

Just wanted to say I really like the idea of a lodge trip for next year. That's probably how I want to do Yosemite the first time (unless you count when I was 6 months old, in which case that's exactly how I did it.)

Well, if there's enough interest in a Lodge Trip for next year, I'll postpone any thought of a smaller lodge excursion this year.

Alex was right about not debating both a time and a place. I think we have narrowed to Kings Canyon in early June. Which of two weekends and which of two campgrounds are what's in play. That shouldn't be too hard to deal with, i hope.

But if NA's Google Earth photo of Kings Canyon posted above is illustrative, I don't see how that tool is going to help us get a handle on what the Group Camp may be like.

Well, if you choose to go with my recommendation, it will be Sheep Creek the first weekend in June.

I second Sheep Creek the first weekend in June!





Or do I first Sheep Creek the second weekend in June?

the lodge thing for Yoze works for me. so should the first weekend in June dates.

so something like the 4th or 5th through the 10th yes?

Ok so Sheep Creek first weekend in June (and that's not a group spot so I'm not faxing a reservation correct?)

I'm still waiting a call back to confirm Sheep Creek will be open (but it usually is by June). But, according to the ranger I spoke with today, Kings Canyone is deserted after Mem Day (and even then it doesn't fill) and is pretty clear until mid June. That coincides with the many experiences I've had in Kings Canyon as well. So, I'm thinking it's a pretty good chance for us to take.

Now, if I'm wrong and you all throw me in the rushing Kings river, you will be charged with murder.

Only if they find the body ;)