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Ghoulish Delight 10-03-2008 04:31 PM
Well, if she was trying to work her wiles on men, it seemingly didn't work. Women, on the other hand...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27009491/

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Overall, Palin did better among women than among men, with greatest gains coming from Republican women relieved that the second female nominee in the nation’s history avoided mistakes and appeared confident and connected to ordinary voters.

...

“As a woman, I just wanted her to stop embarrassing us,” said Susannah Nation, 32, a human resources manager in Kentfield, Calif. “I’ve got to say I was impressed. She did not change my vote and I will never agree with her, but she was a studied candidate.”

Only male Democrats viewed Palin less favorably after the debate than before, according to Mitchell McKinney, a University of Missouri-Columbia researcher whose past debate analysis has predicted national trends.

ETA: The "stop embarrassing us" quote is from a Democrat.

BarTopDancer 10-03-2008 04:32 PM
Completely.

She insults me as a woman, as a hockey fan and as a future hockey mom.

"Can I call you Joe" just shows how informal our culture has become. Teachers are on a first name basis with students. Informal equates to comfortable/everyone is equal. Teachers are not equal to students.

innerSpaceman 10-03-2008 04:43 PM
Do you think Biden felt put on the spot by "Can I call you Joe?"



How do you think he'd feel if, when I meet him, I open with "Can I have your son Bow's phone number?"

bewitched 10-03-2008 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 243998)
That'd be me, in the McCain thread.
Ah, sorry. I would've credited you but I couldn't remember where I'd seen it. :)

bewitched 10-03-2008 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 244043)
FYI, I believe the "Disney Movie" joke came from Matt Damon, and now it's the go-to line. He may just be a Hollywood blowhard, but he's right on the money here.

Just another reason Matt and I are so right for each other. :D


(Not the blowhard part, of course. ;) )

Alex 10-03-2008 05:35 PM
Looking at the transcript, after having asked, she only ever actually said the word "Joe" in reference to Biden once and that was in her lame Reagan call out when she said "Say it ain't so, Joe, there you go again..."

I'm sure that was a prepare line. I'm guessing she'd have used it even if he said no.

alphabassettgrrl 10-03-2008 05:57 PM
Asking him if it's ok to use his first name like that was a calculated move.
1- prepare for her upcoming tagline
2- he can say yes and let her appear his peer, or no and be a jerk
3- women are so friendly and personable they call everybody by their name; "look at me, I'm friendly"

Whatever. I can kind of understand it and kind of don't care.

bewitched 10-03-2008 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 244107)
Looking at the transcript, after having asked, she only ever actually said the word "Joe" in reference to Biden once and that was in her lame Reagan call out when she said "Say it ain't so, Joe, there you go again..."

I'm sure that was a prepare line. I'm guessing she'd have used it even if he said no.
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Originally Posted by alphabassettgrrl (Post 244114)
Asking him if it's ok to use his first name like that was a calculated move.
1- prepare for her upcoming tagline
2- he can say yes and let her appear his peer, or no and be a jerk
3- women are so friendly and personable they call everybody by their name; "look at me, I'm friendly"

Whatever. I can kind of understand it and kind of don't care.
SO if he would have said no, would she still have used the line?

alphabassettgrrl 10-03-2008 06:43 PM
Probably. Too good to pass up. Hard to say for sure.

mousepod 10-03-2008 06:51 PM
How was "Say it ain't so, Joe" too good to pass up? I know I've been power-reading through LoT lately, but isn't there a discussion in the Movie Musings thread about crappy retreads? Palin's barb was two (count 'em) quotes strung together... nothing new. Sorry, but I don't think she did a good job. I think she regurgitated a few scripted bits as well as a typical high school junior in the school play. I'd love for Brian Williams to ask her: "'Say it ain't so Joe.' Do you know what famous event in American history this line refers to?"


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