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Ghoulish Delight 03-05-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 271603)
We don't know for sure that Ben didn't make it. Maybe he's with Sun and Sayid.

We saw Ben last episode. He's unconscious with the injured from flight 316. Locke: "He's the man who killed me."

BarTopDancer 03-05-2009 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 271604)
We saw Ben last episode. He's unconscious with the injured from flight 316. Locke: "He's the man who killed me."

Oh ya.


Did anyone else catch the name of the woman who gave birth? Pretty sure it was Annie (and what else has that actress been in? It's driving me crazy!)

Ghoulish Delight 03-05-2009 11:47 AM

Amy.

Reiko Aylesworth
(she's been on 24)

Ghoulish Delight 03-05-2009 11:57 AM

So Lostpedia reminded me of some stuff about Horace. I remembered that we'd seen him before in the episode(s?) about Ben's arrival on the island, and the purge and all that. I'd forgotten that he was the one who built Jacob's cabin and whose corpse had the blueprints for said cabin.

Cadaverous Pallor 03-05-2009 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 271595)
Also, The O6 ended up in 1977 with Saywer (excuse me... "LaFleur") et al. Ben and Locke did not. Interesting.

Wait, when we see Locke with the New Plane people, they are on the beach, with the canoes. I'm totally lost as to when we saw the canoes there before, timewise, but it's definitely not post-Losties camp. Seems to me the New Plane and Locke are there in 1977, same as the O6, just on the beach side of the island (which we know is far from the Dharma compound).

JWBear 03-05-2009 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 271636)
Wait, when we see Locke with the New Plane people, they are on the beach, with the canoes. I'm totally lost as to when we saw the canoes there before, timewise, but it's definitely not post-Losties camp. Seems to me the New Plane and Locke are there in 1977, same as the O6, just on the beach side of the island (which we know is far from the Dharma compound).

Locke, Ben, and the rest of the flight 316 are at the Hydra station – the same station Jack was being held at by the Others, and where he operated on Ben. In 1977, this station was (relatively) brand new, and was still fully staffed by DI (and polar bears!). In the scenes with the 316ers, it has obviously been abandoned and looks even more rundown than when the Others were using it. Ergo, the 316ers landed on the Island in “current” time – late 2007/early 2008.

bewitched 03-05-2009 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 271636)
Wait, when we see Locke with the New Plane people, they are on the beach, with the canoes. I'm totally lost as to when we saw the canoes there before, timewise, but it's definitely not post-Losties camp.

It was in the episode when Sawyer saw Kate and Claire when Claire was giving birth. Remember, they walked back to beach and it was all wrecked and there were a couple of canoes with an Ajira Airways water bottle. They took the canoes part of the way to the Orchid station and got shot at from another canoe.

Looking on IMDB, it was the 4th episode this season, "The Little Prince"

eta: Since it was when they were still time jumping, it was a post Losties camp, we just didn't know (at the time) that it was the Ajira camp...we just assumed it was the Oceanic camp that had been trashed (or at least I did). And personally, I think Locke (and Ben) are current time, as is the Ajira camp.

bewitched 03-05-2009 09:06 PM

A review I just read got me thinking (it was about how various seasons seem to be the yin/yang of each other)...and I may be on a totally wrong path...but does Milton's Paradise Lost and Paradise Regained resonate with anyone else? I don't want to really flesh out my thoughts yet since neither book is fresh enough in my mind.

Synopsis:

Here.

And here.

JWBear 03-05-2009 10:19 PM

There are so many interweaving references - literary and otherwise - in this show. I have no doubt that Milton is one of them.

Cadaverous Pallor 03-06-2009 11:33 AM

There are officially too many things for me to remember. :)


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