Man, I gotta stay out of the political threads! Stop me now.

JW, your avatar is so hot, please post somewhere else so I can drool in a more pleasant environment. ;)

Exactly....McCain is doing better than Bush at this point in time.

Kerry was up on Bush 273 to 233 on Sept 12 of 2004

but...

Yesterday, Sept 11, Obama was up on McCain by nearly the exact same amount{273 to 238}

So you see, Obama is doing exactly as well as Kerry.....McCain is doing slightly better than Bush ....thus, my cockiness:D

You can also look at it this way: In 2004, between this date and the election, the two candidates positions reversed.....

He is, sin't he... :D

I see what your saying.....my line of reasoning is a little different(naturlich):)

There are many different sites with maps out there and they're all different

That's true, but this one has been touted the most here on LoT; maybe that's because up until today it had Obama with pretty big leads. It's author is a Democrat and he uses data from several reputable polling services so I am confident that this isn't right wing propaganda.

There are other sites though:

This one still has Obama with a slight lead:
http://www.electionprojection.com/president08.shtml

This one has McCain with an even bigger lead:
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/...rediction.html



And this one is based on people who bet on these kind of things...it has McCain with the narrowest of leads:
http://electoralmap.net/index.php

How do those polls account for the large amount of younger voters who seem to make up Obama's demographic? Pollsters can't call cell phones.

I don't know if that will have any affect on the polls. With Kerry, it did not. I remember people thinking that he had it in the bag because of the un-polled cellphone users.

It may this time. More people, more young voters don't have landlines then didn't back when Kerry was running.