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Ghoulish Delight 10-02-2008 10:58 AM

So I'm wondering - how exactly does John McCain reconcile his "I'm going to stop all pork barrel politics and earmarking," rhetoric with voting for this bill?

scaeagles 10-02-2008 11:18 AM

Can't.

innerSpaceman 10-02-2008 11:19 AM

Yep, the smelliest bill full of pork barrel earmarks that has EVER come down the pike. Bullsh!t that is nothing but pure BRIBERY to get the votes of individual House members. Tax breaks for bicycle paths. Tax breaks for Road Racing Facilities. Tax breaks for businesses owned by Samoan Americans. OM Fvcking G, it's insane.

By the way, and speaking of insanity, the mental health provision - though also designed to appease one specific House member - is the one that makes the most sense. It is NOT a mandate for insurance companies to cover mental health, but rather a mandate for those that already DO cover it to cover it equitably to their other medical coverage.


Too bad Obama also voted for this bill ... otherwise he could shove the earmarks and pork straight up McCain's patootie at the next debate.


This Bill Reeks.

:mad:


$150 billion dollars of extra tax breaks heaped on top of the $700 billion dollars already misdesigned in the same mold as the problem it portends to address ... i.e., pure trickle-down voodoo.

Morrigoon 10-02-2008 12:04 PM

Found an interesting article on LiveScience relating to people's reactions to the bailout bill:
http://www.livescience.com/culture/0...t-package.html

BDBopper 10-02-2008 12:24 PM

So who's ready to rename this country the United Socialist States of America after this stupid bill passes and the next president is sworn in? It makes me sick!

I can't believe tha "the people who burned the Thanksgiving turkey are demanding that we now let them cook Christmas dinner" and we are letting them! :mad: (yes those are Huckabee's words in quotes, not mine)

JWBear 10-02-2008 12:29 PM

Isn't amazing that the one issue these days that there is an overwhelming public bipartisan agreement against, is one our leaders seems determined to pass, no matter what.

Ghoulish Delight 10-02-2008 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 243704)
Too bad Obama also voted for this bill ... otherwise he could shove the earmarks and pork straight up McCain's patootie at the next debate.

I think he still can. It fits right in with the, "scalpel, not a hatchet," line. As well as the, "McCain is Bush redux," strategy. Bush's administration has been all about decreeing in absolutes only to be bitten when the real world of subtlety nuance rears its head. And here we are again, McCain claiming he can just come in and turn off the faucet while Obama, with is wisdom and experience, knows that real change is accomplished with care and not with reckless spouting of unrealistic absolutes destined to be broken.

Moonliner 10-02-2008 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BDBopper (Post 243725)
[b]So who's ready to rename this country the United Socialist States of America after this stupid bill passes and the next president is sworn in? It makes me sick!

Well it will save Obama some time in achieving his goal of making us a socialist state. We'll be half way there before he even makes it into office.

innerSpaceman 10-02-2008 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 243729)
Isn't amazing that the one issue these days that there is an overwhelming public bipartisan agreement against, is one our leaders seems determined to pass, no matter what.

I must spread some mojo around before ... blah, blah, blah.

Alex 10-02-2008 02:49 PM

But conversely couldn't it be asked whether the fact that heavily poll driven people who would normally be scared of such universal public disapproval doing it anyway is a sign that maybe the mass gut reaction isn't the best one?

But mostly, I'm sure, they're just remembering how well it worked out for Herbert Hoover when he said "let the markets work it out" and that the guy who said "**** that nonsense" gets to be considered the hero first. I do think they are reacting too soon: the key to FDR's successful image despite not actually fixing the problem is that you have to let everything go in the tank first.


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