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Morrigoon 01-04-2008 02:17 PM

For the sake of argument, anyone who needs to see the Obama speech can view it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNZaq-YKCnE

Morrigoon 01-04-2008 02:21 PM

Is it just me, or are all the "red" and "blue" politicians starting to wear ties that match their affiliation?

LSPoorEeyorick 01-04-2008 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 183093)
Obama believes it is right to raise income taxes on "the rich". Problem is that income taxes are a tax on the accumulation of wealth.

Obama wants a universal health care program.

Obama will pull our troops out of Iraq.

Thank you for the point-by-point list of some of the reasons I support Obama!

I may have missed it, but did anyone post that long political beliefs meme that's been sluicing around LiveJournal lately?

scaeagles 01-05-2008 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 183107)
I do not give the government one-third of everything I earn so they can "stay out of the way."


We shouldn't be giving the government one third of everything we earn.

innerSpaceman 01-05-2008 09:03 AM

Yeah, that's all well and good .... perhaps "give" was not the right word.


I'm sure you're quite aware that they take it.




And maybe they shouldn't. I very much agree. But since they are, I rather prefer they do something with it to improve the situation of other Americans whose money they take, and not use it to our disadvantage or worse.

scaeagles 01-05-2008 10:02 AM

Take it? Isn't the tax code voluntary? (hahahahahahaha)

This is why I am for tax cuts in any and every form (income taxes particularly), and I think they could be lowered IMMENSELY. Tax cuts historically raise tax revenues becuase of increased economic activity, but I don't really want the government to have more money. This means we could cut them a whole lot.

Ghoulish Delight 01-05-2008 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 183387)
Tax cuts historically raise tax revenues becuase of increased economic activity,

Bought into that lie, have you?

sleepyjeff 01-05-2008 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 183393)
Bought into that lie, have you?


Whether it is the Demand-side cuts of JFK or the Supply-side cuts of RWR I think a case can be made that tax cuts do create more revenue.....at least in the short term. The last three Presidents to try it all had success(JFK, RWR, and yes, GWB)

As for me....I'd rather see the source of the problem addressed first......spending.

JWBear 01-05-2008 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 183393)
Bought into that lie, have you?

It is true if you cut taxes to the middle class and small businesses. But Republicans never seem to want to do that. They'd rather give tax breaks to big corporations and the very wealthy, which doesn't help at all.

sleepyjeff 01-05-2008 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 183403)
It is true if you cut taxes to the middle class and small businesses. But Republicans never seem to want to do that. They'd rather give tax breaks to big corporations and the very wealthy, which doesn't help at all.


But if they are the ones paying 80+ percent of the taxes it's gonna be kinda hard to cut taxes at all without cutting theirs wouldn't you agree?


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