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Stan4dSteph 05-16-2011 11:17 AM

Agreed. When David stood up at final tribal and said his piece, I thought, "damn straight, tell it like it is." I'm really glad that Rob won. He played an amazing game and worked very hard at it. He totally deserved it.

I was kind of surprised that Grant is still pissed off.

Wonder who will be coming back. Maybe Matt?

Ghoulish Delight 05-16-2011 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Stan4dSteph (Post 346842)
Agreed. When David stood up at final tribal and said his piece, I thought, "damn straight, tell it like it is." I'm really glad that Rob won. He played an amazing game and worked very hard at it. He totally deserved it.

That's how good Rob was. Normally the person in the "pulling the strings" position makes that argument for themselves at final tribal and comes off as arrogant. Rob managed to magically get someone else to spontaneously do it for him. Hell, not just one person, but both Natalie and Phillip essentially said the same thing, giving him all the credit. Amazing.

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Wonder who will be coming back. Maybe Matt?
Good chance. And a coworker thinks he spotted a shot of Andrea's eyes (they are pretty recognizable), so it might be the two of them.

scaeagles 05-16-2011 06:12 PM

I thought I saw (as did my daughter) a shot of the long haired ice cream scooper guy that gave his immunity away how ever many seasons ago that was. Probably not though.

Strangler Lewis 05-17-2011 05:46 AM

I always found Boston Rob entertaining, and while I didn't watch any of this season, it's inconceivable to me that he would not be not merely voted off at the first opportunity, but killed by the combined efforts of both tribes at the first opportunity. If the fix wasn't in, everybody had to be under some lame assed "Okay, Rob, let's help you win" hypnosis.

Ghoulish Delight 05-17-2011 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis (Post 346886)
everybody had to be under some lame assed "Okay, Rob, let's help you win" hypnosis.

I think it was more, "Please Rob, please give me some chance of winning."

Like he said at the reunion it was all about getting his foot in the door. All he had to do was survive getting voted off first. That gave him just enough time to lull everyone into the "Well, no one's going to give him the million anyway, so why don't we use his experience to help our tribe stay strong for a while" trap. Once he got past that threshold, it was all just a matter of him doing an absolutely masterful job of keeping everyone's blinders on.

If there's one truth about Survivor it's that people will almost always prefer to stick to the plan of record if the plan of record means they get to stay for 3 more days. As stupid as it may look from the audience's view, that has always proven to be the primary motivating factor out there. So all Rob had to do was be sure that, even though it was a terrible strategy in the long term for all of them, each of them 'knew' that at least they were there for another three days if they just stuck with the plan.

Betty 05-17-2011 07:56 AM

I think they should have made redemption island a luxurious place to hang out and/or given the person there some sort of ability to occassionally mess with things back at camp. let them give one person a clue to something, or some special food, or a letter from home.

I know they keep changing up the game but apparently not enough for me. I'd like to see them mess with players heads more.

Ghoulish Delight 05-17-2011 08:21 AM

Redemption did end up being a bit of a bust. It made for a good story with Matt, but in terms of effect on the game - minimal. For all the talk of what influence a person coming back might have, everything just reverted back to what I mentioned in my last post - rule number one is say alive for 3 more days. Everyone with a working plan just saw the person coming back from Redemption as a wild card that would screw up whatever they had in mind, so just vote them the fvck out and get back on track. Boring.


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