I'm much closer to Moonliner than iSm on this one. Most of it was pretty painful to sit through with the occasional redeeming element. I think the first time I looked at my watch was about 20 minutes in and then again several more times throughout.

As for the "truth, justice, and all that stuff" line I don't really care that they changed it and set in the current era it would seem very anachronistic to have said the classic line. But rather than changing it so obviously I wonder why they didn't just leave it out altogether, it wasn't that important.

The media always needs a story, and the "American way" seems to be this weeks fresh meat.....

In the context of the film, it was Parry White who says the line. Given his gruff no-nonsense character I thought it was very much in character for HIM to say. Now if Jimmy or someone else had use "and all that stuff" it would have been out of place.

Of course the movie still sucked. :p


Oh, and as for the suit, I believe it was woven not sewed, so no need to cut anything. As for the boots, he only had booties prior to his trip out to old dead Krypton. He must have picked them on a fire sale during the trip.....

Oh, part-2, and at what point exactly did bits of the old dead planet become deadly to superman? I always thought it was due to the initial explosion, be it nova or bad ecology induced. If that's the case would not a visit home cause a problem?

Being bored for much of the movie gives you time to ask those questions that aren't really important and in an entertaining movie get annoyed. Such as how does he hide the cape and platform boots under a standard suit and loafers?

Or isn't it amazing how every object, no matter how large has such amazing tensile strength that it can be picked up by and small point and still support its own weight without fracture.



But if you do enjoy the movie, none of those things will probably even enter your mind.

After my previous post I decided to check out whether The Bad Astronomer had reviewed the film. He had and raised much the same point. (I've met the guy in person and he doesn't really think that movie need be scientifically accurate, he just sees critiquing the physics and astronomy in movies as an entryway to getting people to think about real-world physics and astronomy -- he has no problem enjoying movies with stupid physics.)

I saw it last night and it was way too long. Actually long and drawn out. I found myself bored in the beginning and waiting for it to pick up. It actually got so bad my husband and I went out for a smoke. Then I had to convince my husband to come back in for the last hour. He wanted to go sleep in the car. I told him that I thought all the action was at the end obviously. He hated it and told us we are doing Spiderman III by ourselves!
The child on the other hand loved it, especially the explosions. He's talking about the whole thing and driving his Dad crazy!
I loved Kitty Kat. She was my favorite. Which annoys the kid because she was the bad lady!
I thought they didn't say American way because he rescued people all over the world in this one.

I've always been much more concerned about how the cape and boots are worn beneath the business suit. But it falls into the same category of hats that always stay on. He's a cartoon character, done in live action.

As such, things like tensile strength and interstellar physics don't enter into it - - unless you are intent on nitpicking apples when oranges are in season.

Like I said, those issues, in a superhero movie aren't all that important if the movie is entertaining. When you're not being entertained you are left with an awful lot of time for your mind to wander into the unimportant minutae.

Though I would suggest that something moves completely into the realm of stupidly unreal when an 8 million ton mass is picked up by a spot with an 8-inch surface area and holds together. But if I were entertained I'd be willing to gloss over it.

I believe this is a departure from canon so what did people think of the revelation that Superman doesn't actually have super hearing but rather apparently some kind of psychic power?

Where does one begin and the other leave off?


I completely understand picking nits if not entertained. I am loving this movie more the more it becomes a movie that some get and others don't. I love those kinds of movies, and admire them even if I'm on the "hate it" side.

I can totally see why some conclude Superman Returns was not entertaining. On the other hand, I know many people besides myself who were enthralled and entertained throughout. Different cups of tea is what it comes down to, but I am still tickled that people watching this same film can see two completely different movies.