What is an "upgrade grub"?

Good question.

And I have a hard time beliving they would show Titanic on a cruise ship myself.

~Bob

Typically when you book a cabin on a cruise, you select a specific class of cabin such as "inside", "outside", "balcony" etc... Cruise lines often give out upgrades to a higher level of cabin if the ship is not full. Some people make it their life's ambition to get an upgrade and try all sorts of tricks... That's a grub. The especially obnoxious ones seem to think it's some sort of right and go flaming bonkers when then are actually placed in the cabin they selected and paid for.

I read that entire thread, what a nightmare! People on deck holding on for dear life, pools being completely emptied while people were swimming, broken glass, flying t.v. sets, etc. Some quite severe injuries were sustained. Unfortunately, it didn't seem like that rare of an occurence! Imagine if your apartment suddenly dipped to an angle somewhat less than a flight of stairs, and didn't right itself for about 15 seconds.

Yeah, I really hope they did a head count very soon after that happened.

They're now saying the list was 15 degrees. Pfffft! That's nothing!

Here's what 25 degrees looks like!

I don't believe for a second it was 15 degrees. Even given the height of the ship, it doesn't account for the fact that the sixth floor was under water during the incident. I realise they were also turning, which would add velocity to the tilt, but it was still far too catastrophic for a 15 degree. Factor in the captain's reaction, and something stinks. It was a figgen miracle someone didn't go overboard.

This is 15 degrees:


My guess is that either the list was much more than 15 degrees; or, more likely, most of the damage was caused by the rapid motion of the ship, not the angle of the decks.

The sixth floor is the last floor before the balcony staterooms. If you look at this pic, you can see exactly where it is, and even given the undoubted cresting of water during the turn it is still incredible that it was under water at only 15 degrees, and for the length of time reported. (Approx 15 seconds)

[quote=wendybeth]The sixth floor is the last floor before the balcony staterooms. If you look at this pic, you can see exactly where it is, and even given the undoubted cresting of water during the turn it is still incredible that it was under water at only 15 degrees, and for the length of time reported. (Approx 15 seconds)


That's not the Crown Princess. This is the Crown Princess:


Deck 6 is the first deck below where the lifeboats are - the deck with 2 sections of big windows, and a short section of small windows. I wouldn't put much faith in reports of water covering the windows at this level. If the ship had tipped over that far, she would never have righted herself.