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Using 9/11 as an excuse to disregard basic human deceny makes me sick. Doing it while hiding behind an American flag makes me angry. |
Look, it's not like liberals love people that are "sociopathic and extremely violent" or that "view females as a subhuman form of property". I sure as hell don't. But I don't support torture, or detaining anyone we damn well please, no matter how horrible I view their culture.
Conservatives just don't get this, I guess. |
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In the interest of being fair... I do not believe it is proper to level an entire neighborhood, killing everyone that lives there, in order to stop a couple of terrorists that may, or may not, be there, especially since we now know that whatever terrorists are there are due to our bungling of operations in Afghanistan. Now... That's what I think. I hope that's clear. What do YOU think? |
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And I certainly "get it", it was an extreme lampooning- which I note seems to be fine when conservatives are the target. |
A couple of side points.
Terrorists are not protected by the Geneva Convention because they are not signatories of it. They do not abide by the Geneva convention, and do not have any basis of claim to the protections proscribed therein. In fact, I believe that terrorists are specifically excluded as being protected by the Geneva convention, as only uniformed soldiers are. This is why spies could legally be shot during times of war. That being said..... Certain things are not acceptable. I do not condone torture in any way. However, I do not necessarily regard certain interrogation techniques as torture. Sleep deprivation and the like. |
Look, whatever it's referring to, and who the Geneva Convention covers, is beyond any of this. It comes down to the very principals that this country was founded on being ignored for "the good of the country." And to me, that undermines "the good of the country" more than anything. I don't care who is attacking who, what methods they are using, what international law says, or what information we may or may not obtain. If this country doesn't believe enough in it's basic underpinnings to stand by them no matter what, and not abandon them because we're scared, then what the hell is the point? And those underpinnings say you do not hold people without charge, you do not inflict cruel and unusual punishment, and people are innocent until proven guilty. Those are blatantly being ignored, and whether it's towards our own citizens or anyone else, it shows a lack of faith in what should be making this the greatest country in the world.
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