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Cadaverous Pallor 12-15-2006 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 109542)
And yet, why are our affectionate and common shortcuts, that are nonetheless wrong, any different? Teacups anyone? When's the last time you called it The Mad Tea Party?

Ok, most of our nicknames are just shorthands, but this common one said by insiders all the time is 100% wrong (and the word "Tea" does not make it right ... remember: the word "Haunted" is part of Haunted House.)

Hmm, my attempt at a reason for "Teacups" being ok is that the ride vehicles ARE teacups. Much the same way we could say in a few months "let's ride the Subs". Or even better, "the Train", which doesn't use the word "train" in it's formal name, the "Disneyland Railroad".

Ghoulish Delight 12-15-2006 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 109563)
Hmm, my attempt at a reason for "Teacups" being ok is that the ride vehicles ARE teacups. Much the same way we could say in a few months "let's ride the Subs". Or even better, "the Train", which doesn't use the word "train" in it's formal name, the "Disneyland Railroad".

"Hey, after Fantasmic!, we can hit Omnimovers, and then Logs. If the line for Logs is too long, maybe Beehives."

Cadaverous Pallor 12-15-2006 09:21 AM

"I want to ride Boat, then Boat, and then maybe after lunch we'll have time for Boat, depending on how we feel."

innerSpaceman 12-15-2006 09:37 AM

Train's a great example. But then why is Haunted House so unbearably wrong? (I cringe whenever I hear it, which is far too often).



Next time we're all at the Park (btw, how does Sunday, Xmas eve, sound to anybody???) ... let's refer to all the rides by their vehicles and see if we can understand what we're talking about!

Ghoulish Delight 12-15-2006 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 109570)

Next time we're all at the Park (btw, how does Sunday, Xmas eve, sound to anybody???) ... let's refer to all the rides by their vehicles and see if we can understand what we're talking about!

I think it's a uniqueness thing. "Haunted House" is a generic. The whole point of the Haunted Mansion is that it ISN'T a carnival Haunted House. It's THE Haunted Mansion.

innerSpaceman 12-15-2006 09:58 AM

Oh, and "Train" is so un-generic, isn't it?

I'll grant "The Disneyland Railroad" is not the masterpiece of imagineering, but "Train" (a word not even in the attraction title) is as generic as humanly possible ... and we regulars say it all the time.




Not making excuses for the lametards who say "Haunted House," just pointing out the inconsistencies of human nature.

Ghoulish Delight 12-15-2006 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 109577)
I'll grant "The Disneyland Railroad" is not the masterpiece of imagineering, but "Train" (a word not even in the attraction title) is as generic as humanly possible ... and we regulars say it all the time.

Yes, but the ride is generic. Sure, it's a really spiffy example, but it's not unique, and certainly not the most spectacular example (even when it first opened) of a train, so it's not as big of a deal. The Haunted Mansion was a first-of-its kind wonder, so it's more of a big deal to separate it from lesser examples.

€uroMeinke 12-15-2006 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 109570)

Next time we're all at the Park (btw, how does Sunday, Xmas eve, sound to anybody???) ... let's refer to all the rides by their vehicles and see if we can understand what we're talking about!


I think a more interesting exercise would be spendng the day calling the attractions only by their proper names. Of course, we seldom venture past Main Street these days so neither would be much of a challenge... "Let's go to Bar"

Alex 12-15-2006 10:24 AM

One difference would be that we do it through knowledge and in circles we know it would work. I say teacups too, but when talking to people I know will understand what I mean. If I am talking to someone I know it taking their first trip I'd use the correct names for the most part. When writing park updates I try (though sometimes slip) to always use the proper names for attractions since I know many people reading aren't all that familiar with the parks (and it is weird to say Matterhorn Bobsleds instead of just Matterhorn or The Adventure of Indiana Jones instead of just Indy or Honey, I Shrunk the Audience instead of "oh yeah, that's still there, isn't it?").

Others use the wrong names out of ignorance and in ways that cause confusion no matter who they are talking to.

Every "specialization" creates its own vocabulary and Disney geekdom is no different. It is a badge of initiation and exclusion. It is to be part of a group to say and understand "even though the line for Pooh is short I'd never ride that. Let's get a fastpass for Indy, and Splash since it is standalone, and then go kill time on TSI until it is time. After that some of us want to eat at R2P2 so we'll take the train around later let's all meet up back at the hub."

Some people use that as a bludgeon against people who wouldn't understand it and others try to use it just when among "friends."

BarTopDancer 12-15-2006 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 109570)
Next time we're all at the Park (btw, how does Sunday, Xmas eve, sound to anybody???) ... let's refer to all the rides by their vehicles and see if we can understand what we're talking about!

I can probably come after Hanukkah dinner with my parents. I may even bring latkas


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