Make that, "One downside to having kids . . .

Bring it on.

Of course you won't be ostracized, not by me at least. I'm a libertarian and people are free to do stupid things* to their heart's desire.

I'm sure I'll see Idiocracy at some point but you're the first person I know who has seen it (admittedly not many) and said good things about it so it isn't high on my list.


*Tongue in cheek of course. Like religion, the urge to procreate is a biological imperative that our lord savior forgot to give me. I've weighed the pros and cons and haven't yet thought of anything for the pro column. Most of the pros for other people end up, at best, in an imaginary third "meh" column. So long as people are intelligent about their baby-making and don't try to force me to give a damn about the birthday of a four-year-old then I wish you all the best.

Remind me never to post a birth announcement here...

You can all talk big about not liking rugrats but I have seen some of you with Wendy's daughter and my son! So maybe, it's just as long as they aren't yours, that you can tolerate them.
Of course it's more fun when they aren't yours. You spoil them, do things they aren't supposed to, get them all hopped up on sugar and then return them to the parents when you are done! That was my favorite thing to do with my nephew!

Actually, what I meant by "help" is for others to have kids too, not just moral support. :) Don't sweat it Pru - they talk a big game but I've seen these lugs with kids. Except Alex. NirvanaMan has actively played with visiting kids. Not that I'd let him babysit or anything...

Cirque's absolutely right, and I nearly posted the same thing. You all have been great with our kids when we've been visiting, something I've very much appreciated.:)

CP- when you and GD do have children, you are going to be awesome parents!

There's a difference between not understanding why anybody in the world would want kids and being mean to them.

I'm perfectly nice and friendly with children and can play with them and they all seem to like me just fine.

I just can't fathom why you'd go get one.

And perhaps it's unfathomable until you do it, and experience it.


Sort of a Catch-22, but that's why the biological imperative exists. There's not much logic to it.

Most people seem to see the appeal of haing children before they actually have them.

But I neither see the appeal nor have the imperative (and no longer the ability) so for me it is all moot.

I do find it interesting that all three of my major social circles (work, Disney, and another) are all almost entirely populated by people without children. That seems particularly unlikely with the Disney crowd. I certainly haven't conciously arranged things so.

Nobody should be criticized for not having children except family values conservatives (Buchanan, Coulter, L. Dole).

By the way, this thread started with CP's observation, often considered alarming, that if the wrong people keep having all the babies, civilization as we know and love it will go down the toilet.

True? Not true?