that was my take on it until I read this


I wear 501's almost exclusively and yeah, it seems the 'access port' is sewn considerably shorter than they used to be, although to ask Levi, they've been the same for x hundred years. (not even bringing up the fearful subject of 'zipper tread' a couple of those make you a very careful person :eek: )

dunno. I (quite intentionally) never really took that much notice of anyone else during that particular moment of my day. I must admit that Im one of those belt, fly and all hell opened up to go kind of guys as I just hate trying to wiz through that narrow opening most pants have for such activity. Ditto for that spring loaded fly sewn into most underwear.

I will say though that just reading this thread has made me have to go.

:blush:

so if you'll excuse me.....

Thinking about it, if indeed it has changed over time I wonder if it is because of a change in style and general tightness of pants. The through the fly method is much easier in relatively loose fitting slacks and more difficult in relatively tight jeans. As we've gone to more casual clothing that tends to fit more snugly (and as we've grown bigger tending to more snugly fill our clothes) I wonder if that would change habits.

When I wear slacks I am much more likely to go through the fly since opening everything wide makes it hard to keep your pants up. But with jeans they aren't going to go far.

The reason for the wide footed stance???

What about A full grown man who skeeves everyone in the place out by doing that little kid number and dropping trou all the way down and pissing bare assed while swaying around like a freaking drunkard?

Comparison glance?? Please tell me you're kidding. Please tell me guys don't actually do that........

(If so, I just learned something new, that I would have thought of as a joke.)

I never have. But then I have approximately zero interest in penii other than my own. Especially since except for certain truly extreme outlyers, penii in peeing condition don't really offer much useful information.

Oh, I've never done it. Where's the comparison factor during that, ahem, stage of penile performance (aka peeing)? I might be interested in comparisons with a more ready-for-action penis ... but, ok, I'll admit to being interested in those for many other reasons besides.


Still ... for gay men, urinal-opportunity comparisons are a sterotypically common activity.

I think the glance is probably more prevalent in younger males (at the onset of puberty). That awkward age where every is dying to fit in. I know I am guilty of it (though I couldn't help stealing a glance at one individual at a later part of life when I noticed out of the corner of my eye that he was dangling MUCH lower than usual. And he was to about mid-thigh :eek:

just be careful with with those pesky undercover officers...

I just got back from the Ritz Carelton in Marina Del Rey (nice view!) and all I saw in the men's room was a bunch of old gassy guys in suits at the urinals. Boy, I think they had a Gaseous Eruptions concert going or something, and boy that tune stunk!! :eek: