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Jughead P. Jones 04-24-2007 08:20 PM

Well, since I am from Canada, I'd probably go with the term Black Canadian, if writing from a research perspective.

(And, EH1812...technically, you're right, as in we're part of NORTH AMERICA, but we're individuals, darn it. We say EH! EH!!!)

Not Afraid 04-24-2007 08:47 PM

I'm Mayflowerian.

Re: African American: The "American" supposedly refers to "The Americas" which is basically the Western Hemisphere. So, Canadian Blacks should be called African American. The term is to distinguish ethnicity, not nationality, so Canadian whatever shouldn't be used IMHO.

lizziebith 04-24-2007 09:23 PM

My StepMom (who is) prefers Black. Adamantly. And yes, I asked.

Disneyphile 04-24-2007 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morrigoon (Post 132762)
Ask and ye shall receive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus

Holy hell. Well, I'm not from that region either.

So, from now on, I'm checking off "other", if Caucasian is the only "white" option.

Alex 04-24-2007 10:17 PM

As used in the United States, "caucasian" simply refers to skin color not region of origin. In Europe "caucasian" refers to people from that region.

How the name for that region came be used as the descriptive term for white people is an interesting bit of racist science history. Without going into details, the term was used because that's where early 19th science though the skull features of northern Europeans would ultimately be traced.

But to a degree it is all moot since race doesn't exist in an objective sense and in general usage people aren't at all rigorous in distinguishing race, ethnicity, and nationality. Or even the order in which they are important (the idea that the third of those should be primary is a relatively recent concept).

RStar 04-24-2007 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis (Post 132739)
I'll have a Black Canadian:

1 oz. Black Label
1 oz. Canadian Club
4 oz. Molson
Rim a glass with bacon fat, then salt.
Mix and pour.

As much as I like Bacon, the thought of licking greasy bacon fat off the rim of my drinking glass makes me ill.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jughead P. Jones (Post 132767)
Well, since I am from Canada, I'd probably go with the term Black Canadian, if writing from a research perspective.

(And, EH1812...technically, you're right, as in we're part of NORTH AMERICA, but we're individuals, darn it. We say EH! EH!!!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disneyphile (Post 132787)
Holy hell. Well, I'm not from that region either.

So, from now on, I'm checking off "other", if Caucasian is the only "white" option.

I think the term Caucasian is a niceity that is trying to describe a race without using a "color" term the same way "African American" is avoiding the lable of "Black'. Frankly, I prefer the "Black" "White" Lables just because they are simple.

But if Latinos don't like brown, and American Indians don't like red, then what? And if the American Indians drop the first part, they may be confused with those from India.

And if the Black Canadians don't know they are in Canada, all is lost anyway! So why bother? ;)

That said, I have no problem with any group or race prefering a lable, of which I would gladly use. I just wish someone would standardize, and all agree on. But making 100% of any one happy is impossible, now isn't it?

blueerica 04-24-2007 11:06 PM

Wow! You must really mean that, Rstar! ;)

On that note, I know a number of Latinos that refer to themselves as "brown" but in Spanish... "Soy moreno!"

Oh, but don't call a Latino "brown"... like, ever. You may as well use any number of less-savory euphemisms. ;)

blueerica 04-24-2007 11:07 PM

I know I'm tired, but can euphemisms be savory?

Not Afraid 04-24-2007 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueerica (Post 132813)
I know I'm tired, but can euphemisms be savory?

If they're brown(ed)......in butter.

lashbear 04-24-2007 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueerica (Post 132813)
I know I'm tired, but can euphemisms be savory?

Savory Euphamisms

4 Euphamisms
1 piece of toast
Anchovy Butter

Butter the toast with the Anchovy Butter.

Cut into triangle quadrants and place a Euphamism (smooth side down) on each toast triangle.

Best drink to serve with this would be a Black Canadian :cheers: .

Serve your Savory Euphamisms ar your next party and watch 'em snap them up !!!


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