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scaeagles 03-28-2008 09:02 AM

See, I love the full court press. It can be used to speed tempo, slow tempo, take teams out of an offense, create turnovers....I love defense in general, and I love when teams makes other teams pay for pressing.

Xavier will present an interesting challange for them, I think. Very athletic. I am envious of my boss who will be there (I wasn't going to shell out $110 per ticket - yikes!).

Ghoulish Delight 03-28-2008 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 201492)
See, I love the full court press. It can be used to speed tempo, slow tempo, take teams out of an offense, create turnovers....I love defense in general, and I love when teams makes other teams pay for pressing.

Oh, it's a perfectly intelligent strategy in the context, I just think it points out a flaw in the context (as I amended, I don't hate that it's done, I hate that it works). It's not so much good defense as exploiting crappy offense and sloppy ball handling skills. Implement a full court press against non-amateurs and you'll get burned every time.

Now, if the whole team could move the ball the way Love does, it'd be a different story. The kid's got skill.

scaeagles 03-28-2008 10:08 AM

Depends on how you utilize your press and the goals of it, but I see your point.

I suppose the main reason I love it is that I consider defense to be the great equalizer. EVERYONE can play D, and if you are a good athlete without a lick of offensive skill you can make an impact.

SacTown Chronic 03-28-2008 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 201508)
I suppose the main reason I love it is that I consider defense to be the great equalizer.

Which is exactly why a fan of a #1 seed might be susceptible to bemoaning the existence of full court press defense.


Cause and effect, GD. Full court D forces bad offense and crappy ball handling skills as much as it reveals them. Ever see a full court press fluster John Stockton and force him into turnovers? I have.

Ghoulish Delight 03-28-2008 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic (Post 201512)
Cause and effect, GD. Full court D forces bad offense and crappy ball handling skills as much as it reveals them. Ever see a full court press fluster John Stockton and force him into turnovers? I have.

Oh sure, it can be a very effective weapon on occasion. But the vast majority of the time, and NBA team is going to blow right past a press. That's why you rarely see it except in just the right situation.

There's a huge difference between going to the press in pressure situations to force a rare mistake vs. pressing the entire game because you know that the few easy breakaways will be far outweighed by the copious unforced errors (yes, I call them "unforced" because a team SHOULD be able to get past a press) that will result.

And it's not just sour grapes re:UCLA. It's prevalent in all of college basketball and one of the main reasons I don't watch the sport, no matter who's playing. I don't really enjoy watching 40 minutes of sloppy passing.

scaeagles 03-28-2008 11:56 AM

I coach HS ball, and I know snoppy passing. College ball is nothing.

Gemini Cricket 03-28-2008 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 201547)
I coach HS ball, and I know snoppy passing. College ball is nothing.

I don't know what a snoppy pass is, but I do know how you feel when we talk Oscars every year. Snore.
:)


And it's not the whole 'gay men don't like sports thing either'. Ralphie watches UCLA games and loves them. And I even watched the whole Super Bowl this year.
:)

scaeagles 03-28-2008 08:26 PM

Good Lord....OK, GD, I'm with you tonight. Beyond boring tonight. Yikes. Two games, one with a 20 pt half time margin, the other with a freakin' unbelievable 30 pt half time margin. Ick.

SacTown Chronic 03-28-2008 08:47 PM

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Yeah, tonight's games suck.

SacTown Chronic 03-29-2008 09:58 AM

Oh man, these Elite 8 matchups are tasty.


Xavier* vs. UCLA 3:40pm
North Carolina vs. Louisville* 6:05pm


Sun:

Memphis* vs. Texas 11:20am
Davidson vs. Kansas* 2:05pm




*My lead-pipe cinch, five diamond winners. Accuracy not guaranteed nor realistic. No refunds.


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