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Gemini Cricket 10-21-2008 11:57 AM

I'm not for certain about the young vote and what that poll means.

Here is something I posted on Facebook to a friend of mine who is frustrated about Prop 8.

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R, the Yes on 8 people have more money. They have been funded by bigger groups. LDS church, Knights of Columbus, etc.

I've lived through this twice already: once in Hawai'i in 1998 and once in 2005 in Boston during the whole aftermath of the legalization of gay marriage. It's going to get uglier as Nov. 4 gets closer.

The one thing both sides need to realize is that life goes on no matter what happens with Prop 8.

The Yes people need to realize too that the day after Prop 8 passes (if it passes), it will be slapped with a lawsuit. And the whole process happens again.

The No people need to think about who is supporting Yes on 8 and remember these businesses and organizations. In the future, when these people ask for support remember that their answer to them should still be "No". If a religious organization, like the LDS church asks for support of some cause, find a like minded cause and support them instead. The LDS church and other homophobic religious organizations will never see a drop of my support or money. Ever.

It is always disheartening to see a Yes on 8 commercial. But remember, no matter how loud they are or how many signs they have, they are not on the side of what is right. Their children and their children's children will realize how wrong they were on this issue and their legacy will become one of intolerance and hypocrisy. On that, I can be certain.
For me, I am not too worried about what the outcome of 8 will be.
Honestly, I'm not.
If 8 passes, it will be challenged.
If 8 fails, it will be challenged.
Eventually, there will be marriage equality. No doubt about that.

Kevy Baby 10-21-2008 12:19 PM

Where can I get No on 8 yard signs? I just need a couple, but I want them to be highly visible.

Ruthie 10-21-2008 12:20 PM

"It is always disheartening to see a Yes on 8 commercial. But remember, no matter how loud they are or how many signs they have, they are not on the side of what is right. Their children and their children's children will realize how wrong they were on this issue and their legacy will become one of intolerance and hypocrisy. On that, I can be certain."

So true, Gemini Cricket. You sound like a very wise person.

JWBear 10-21-2008 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby (Post 247422)
Where can I get No on 8 yard signs? I just need a couple, but I want them to be highly visible.

here

Kevy Baby 10-21-2008 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 247438)

Thank you. But I don't think I would get them in time to make a difference. I was hoping I could find some place in the OC that I could swing by and pick them up.

Ghoulish Delight 10-21-2008 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby (Post 247462)
Thank you. But I don't think I would get them in time to make a difference. I was hoping I could find some place in the OC that I could swing by and pick them up.

Perhaps one of the democratic party offices have 'em. The one I know of is on Chapman by our place, but there are others scattered around.

Kevy Baby 10-21-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 247470)
Perhaps one of the democratic party offices have 'em. The one I know of is on Chapman by our place, but there are others scattered around.

Good idea. I will check there.

BarTopDancer 10-21-2008 01:47 PM

My friend is working the phone banks Thursday. I will ask and see if he can pick some stuff up if you'll be in the area before the election.

Ghoulish Delight 10-21-2008 01:49 PM

Ugh, I'm finding myself having such an angry reaction to the Yes On 8 folks. Today I was in a store and the fvcking KoC ad came played on the radio station that was tuned in. I had an urge to find and smash the radio.

Yesterday I drove past a bunch of people waving Yes On 8 signs, some with pictures of a mom and dad hugging and kissing their sweet innocent child. I sat at a red light across from them for a while, and by the time it turned green and I could pass them, I had to stop myself from rolling down the window and shouting horrible things at them.

Frustratingly, once I got past them and calmed down, all I wanted to do is go back and talk to them reasonably, but I know that I'd just get angry again if I tried and it would not turn out well.

Sigh. I don't respond well to fear and hate.

BarTopDancer 10-21-2008 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 247481)
Ugh, I'm finding myself having such an angry reaction to the Yes On 8 folks. Today I was in a store and the fvcking KoC ad came played on the radio station that was tuned in. I had an urge to find and smash the radio.

Yesterday I drove past a bunch of people waving Yes On 8 signs, some with pictures of a mom and dad hugging and kissing their sweet innocent child. I sat at a red light across from them for a while, and by the time it turned green and I could pass them, I had to stop myself from rolling down the window and shouting horrible things at them.

Frustratingly, once I got past them and calmed down, all I wanted to do is go back and talk to them reasonably, but I know that I'd just get angry again if I tried and it would not turn out well.

Sigh. I don't respond well to fear and hate.

I'm finding myself doing the same thing.

I saw some No on 8 people out with handmade signs. I'm really tempted to do that one day, after work before the election.

I also think that I'm going to end up ending a few friendships over this, I don't think I can be friends with people who think it's ok to take away rights.


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