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Alex 12-18-2008 10:55 PM

Don't know about Sheen. He was fine in The Queen (though some may recall I wasn't enamored of that film) but watching Frost/Nixon I will admit to thinking "hey, this is just Tony Blair again in 70s clothes."

I'll have to go and look now at how much of what is presented is fiction.

Alex 01-18-2009 10:13 AM

Apparently it wasn't in this thread but I don't want to go looking for it. But somewhere after the Golden Globe nominees were announced I said that the exclusion of Milk as best picture didn't necessarily bother me since I didn't think it was a great film and could easily imagine that there were five better ones. At the time I hadn't seen any of the nominees.

Well, I've now seen four out of the five, and while it is certainly possible there were five better movies than Milk last year, none of those four are among them.

Slumdog Millioniare is just overhyped "dignity of the poor" pablum. Frost/Nixon is quality product telling an uninteresting story that only gains in interest when it stretches the truth it is based on. There's nothing particularly wrong with The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, but it just isn't exceptional beyond the CGI. Revolutionary Road is another entry in the artists' condescention that people living in the suburbs must be either self-loathing or self-delusional. Good movies have been made on this, even if it is vaguely insulting, but while well acted, Revolutionary Road adds nothing new and feels like Sam Mendes just returning to the trough of his greatest success. Interestingly the same could be said of Benjamin Button screenwriter, Eric Roth, who also wrote the very similarly structure Forrest Gump.

Anyway, so Milk should be up there based on waht I've seen so far, though the Wall-E and Man on Wire both probably deserve it even more (and will get nothing at the Academy Awards since they are ghetto consigned.

Alex 01-19-2009 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 263975)
Interestingly the same could be said of Benjamin Button screenwriter, Eric Roth, who also wrote the very similarly structure Forrest Gump.

I wasn't the first to make Forrest Gump comparisons for Benjamin Button but this is the best illustration I've found so far.

"...except no AIDS."

Bornieo: Fully Loaded 01-22-2009 01:16 PM

Oscar Nom's

Best Motion Picture of the Year
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008): Ceán Chaffin, Kathleen Kennedy, Frank Marshall

Frost/Nixon (2008): Brian Grazer, Ron Howard, Eric Fellner
Milk (2008): Bruce Cohen, Dan Jinks
The Reader (2008): Nominees to be determined
Slumdog Millionaire (2008): Christian Colson

Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role
Richard Jenkins for The Visitor (2007/I)
Frank Langella for Frost/Nixon (2008)
Sean Penn for Milk (2008)
Brad Pitt for The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008)
Mickey Rourke for The Wrestler (2008)

Best Performance by an Actress in a Leading Role
Anne Hathaway for Rachel Getting Married (2008)
Angelina Jolie for Changeling (2008)
Melissa Leo for Frozen River (2008)
Meryl Streep for Doubt (2008/I)
Kate Winslet for The Reader (2008)

Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role
Josh Brolin for Milk (2008)
Robert Downey Jr. for Tropic Thunder (2008)
Philip Seymour Hoffman for Doubt (2008/I)
Heath Ledger for The Dark Knight (2008)
Michael Shannon for Revolutionary Road (2008)

Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role
Amy Adams for Doubt (2008/I)
Penélope Cruz for Vicky Cristina Barcelona (2008)
Viola Davis for Doubt (2008/I)
Taraji P. Henson for The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008)
Marisa Tomei for The Wrestler (2008)

Best Achievement in Directing
Danny Boyle for Slumdog Millionaire (2008)
Stephen Daldry for The Reader (2008)
David Fincher for The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008)
Ron Howard for Frost/Nixon (2008)
Gus Van Sant for Milk (2008)

Best Writing, Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen
Frozen River (2008): Courtney Hunt
Happy-Go-Lucky (2008): Mike Leigh
In Bruges (2008): Martin McDonagh
Milk (2008): Dustin Lance Black
WALL·E (2008): Andrew Stanton, Pete Docter, Jim Reardon

Best Writing, Screenplay Based on Material Previously Produced or Published
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008): Eric Roth, Robin Swicord
Doubt (2008/I): John Patrick Shanley
Frost/Nixon (2008): Peter Morgan
The Reader (2008): David Hare
Slumdog Millionaire (2008): Simon Beaufoy

Bornieo: Fully Loaded 01-22-2009 01:19 PM

Best Achievement in Cinematography
Changeling (2008): Tom Stern
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008): Claudio Miranda
The Dark Knight (2008): Wally Pfister
The Reader (2008): Roger Deakins, Chris Menges
Slumdog Millionaire (2008): Anthony Dod Mantle

Best Achievement in Editing
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008): Angus Wall, Kirk Baxter
The Dark Knight (2008): Lee Smith
Frost/Nixon (2008): Daniel P. Hanley, Mike Hill
Milk (2008): Elliot Graham
Slumdog Millionaire (2008): Chris Dickens

Best Achievement in Art Direction
Changeling (2008): James J. Murakami, Gary Fettis
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008): Donald Graham Burt, Victor J. Zolfo
The Dark Knight (2008): Nathan Crowley, Peter Lando
The Duchess (2008): Michael Carlin, Rebecca Alleway
Revolutionary Road (2008): Kristi Zea, Debra Schutt

Best Achievement in Costume Design
Australia (2008): Catherine Martin
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008): Jacqueline West
The Duchess (2008): Michael O'Connor
Milk (2008): Danny Glicker
Revolutionary Road (2008): Albert Wolsky

Best Achievement in Makeup
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008): Greg Cannom
The Dark Knight (2008): John Caglione Jr., Conor O'Sullivan
Hellboy II: The Golden Army (2008): Mike Elizalde, Thomas Floutz

Alex 01-22-2009 01:19 PM

For the first time ever I saw the award announcement live, I didn't even realize they were due out today. It was a thrill (that's sarcasm).

An extremely boring and predictable set of nominations. I've said elsewhere but The Reader better be a great movie because none of the other four are. That isn't to say they're bad, just that if those truly are the best it was a lackluster year.

Bornieo: Fully Loaded 01-22-2009 01:20 PM

Best Achievement in Music Written for Motion Pictures, Original Score
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008): Alexandre Desplat
Defiance (2008): James Newton Howard
Milk (2008): Danny Elfman
Slumdog Millionaire (2008): A.R. Rahman
WALL·E (2008): Thomas Newman

Best Achievement in Music Written for Motion Pictures, Original Song
Slumdog Millionaire (2008): A.R. Rahman, Gulzar("Jai Ho")
Slumdog Millionaire (2008): A.R. Rahman, Maya Arulpragasam("O Saya")
WALL·E (2008): Peter Gabriel, Thomas Newman("Down to Earth")

Best Achievement in Sound
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008): David Parker, Michael Semanick, Ren Klyce, Mark Weingarten
The Dark Knight (2008): Ed Novick, Lora Hirschberg, Gary Rizzo
Slumdog Millionaire (2008): Ian Tapp, Richard Pryke, Resul Pookutty
WALL·E (2008): Tom Myers, Michael Semanick, Ben Burtt
Wanted (2008): Chris Jenkins, Frank A. Montaño, Petr Forejt

Best Achievement in Sound Editing
The Dark Knight (2008): Richard King
Iron Man (2008): Frank E. Eulner, Christopher Boyes
Slumdog Millionaire (2008): Tom Sayers
WALL·E (2008): Ben Burtt, Matthew Wood
Wanted (2008): Wylie Stateman

Best Achievement in Visual Effects
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008): Eric Barba, Steve Preeg, Burt Dalton, Craig Barron
The Dark Knight (2008): Nick Davis, Chris Corbould, Timothy Webber, Paul J. Franklin
Iron Man (2008): John Nelson, Ben Snow, Daniel Sudick, Shane Mahan

Best Animated Feature Film of the Year
Bolt (2008): Chris Williams, Byron Howard
Kung Fu Panda (2008): John Stevenson, Mark Osborne
WALL·E (2008): Andrew Stanton

Best Foreign Language Film of the Year
Der Baader Meinhof Komplex (2008)(Germany)
Entre les murs (2008)(France)
Revanche (2008)(Austria)
Okuribito (2008)(Japan)
Vals Im Bashir (2008)(Israel)

Bornieo: Fully Loaded 01-22-2009 01:20 PM

Best Documentary, Features
The Betrayal - Nerakhoon (2008): Ellen Kuras, Thavisouk Phrasavath
Encounters at the End of the World (2007): Werner Herzog, Henry Kaiser
The Garden (2008/I): Scott Hamilton Kennedy
Man on Wire (2008): James Marsh, Simon Chinn
Trouble the Water (2008): Tia Lessin, Carl Deal

Best Documentary, Short Subjects
The Conscience of Nhem En: Steven Okazaki
The Final Inch: Irene Taylor Brodsky, Tom Grant
Smile Pinki: Megan Mylan
The Witness from the Balcony of Room 306: Adam Pertofsky, Margaret Hyde

Best Short Film, Animated
La Maison en Petits Cubes: Kunio Kato
Ubornaya istoriya - lyubovnaya istoriya (2007): Konstantin Bronzit
Oktapodi (2007): Emud Mokhberi, Thierry Marchand
Presto (2008): Doug Sweetland
This Way Up (2008): Alan Smith, Adam Foulkes

Best Short Film, Live Action
Auf der Strecke (2007): Reto Caffi
Manon sur le bitume (2007): Elizabeth Marre, Olivier Pont
New Boy (2007): Steph Green, Tamara Anghie
Grisen (2008): Tivi Magnusson, Dorthe Warnø Høgh
Spielzeugland (2007): Jochen Alexander Freydank

innerSpaceman 01-22-2009 01:29 PM

The Curious Case of Benjamin Button is the most overrated movie of our time. Best Picture and 12 other nominations?! What a crock.

Unless I'm missing something. Can someone point to an element of the film that commented on the unique experience of living life backwards?

I saw only a pretty neat love story and the character arc of any adventurous man whose instincts could have been engendered by any number of life experiences. It seems to me living backwards would have produced some very unique curiousities ... but I saw none.

Bah.


Spoiler:
And if that's what the child of Brad Pitt and Cate Blanchett would turn out like, I'm sorely disappointed.

Alex 01-22-2009 02:23 PM

No, it was pleasant but not great.

The thing I wondered was

Spoiler:
If has born baby sized but old why didn't he die adult sized but an infant? I know, it's a fantasy, but it just wasn't particularly compelling fantasy.


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