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Moonliner 12-05-2008 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 257530)
While I might generally agree with Moonliner, I doubt either of you have been been first-hand targets of religious intolerance. I might agree that there's a point where sensitivity becomes over sensitivity, but it's easy to say, "It's just tradition, get over it," when you've never had a religious slur thrown your way.

I'm not saying hatred and intolerance don't exist I'm just saying they are not hiding in every Santa and Nativity scene as some would lead us to believe.

In a Christian society you are going to see more Christian symbols, just as in a Jewish state you would find more Jewish symbols.

Ghoulish Delight 12-05-2008 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 257553)

In a Christian society you are going to see more Christian symbols, just as in a Jewish state you would find more Jewish symbols.

Agreed. But there's a line that can be drawn, and in this country that line is at the governmental level. If the government is funding it, I think it's wrong.

Kevy Baby 12-05-2008 11:45 AM

GD

I am having a hard time taking you seriously on anything right now because of that animated GIF in your signature. That is just disturbing.

Moonliner 12-05-2008 11:50 AM

Back on the original idea...

I don't like the sign. A "holiday" tree and nativity are pretty to look at.

The sign is just ugly and based on hate. It attacks the views of others rather than promote the beliefs of it's makers.

Perhaps if they replaced it with a diorama of Newtons laws or a tree all by itself as nature made it...... That would be better.

Deebs 12-05-2008 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bornieo: Fully Loaded (Post 257480)
There are numbers, words and links in the OP. Can someone translate , I don't wanna read all that...

Um, remember? Wendy told SD that we are all real smart here. Play along, wouldja?

Snowflake 12-05-2008 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Deebs (Post 257593)
Um, remember? Wendy told SD that we are all real smart here. Play along, wouldja?

This look funny VDM

Kevy Baby 12-05-2008 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 257598)
This look funny VDM

I are an English Major

Sir Dillon 12-05-2008 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 257558)
Back on the original idea...

I don't like the sign. A "holiday" tree and nativity are pretty to look at

The sign is just ugly and based on hate.

How are general statements about religion (note there was no particular religion specifically mentioned or referenced within the context of the sign), that are far more easily substantiated by facts than the fiction used to rationalize religious dogma, be "based on hate"?

To state that there are "no gods, no devils, no angels..." and that "religion is but myth and susperstitions" is no more hateful than stating there is "no santa clause, easter bunny, or tooth fairy" and all "are but myth and fairytales."

The statements expressed on that sign are pretty innocuous when juxtaposed to some of the real "hate speech" found in the KJV Bible and Koran, for example.

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It attacks the views of others rather than promote the beliefs of it's makers.
The statements made do not attach the views of others since only general statements are being made; views that express "the beliefs of its makers."

Are they not equally entitled to their public opinions just as religious believers are?

Perhaps we should just simply turn the clock back to the days when anyone who expresses view points contrary to religion (any religion) are charged with heresy and summarily imprisoned, submitted to an inquisition, and/or executed?

S.D.

Bornieo: Fully Loaded 12-05-2008 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Deebs (Post 257593)
Um, remember? Wendy told SD that we are all real smart here. Play along, wouldja?

I can only pretend for so long...

Moonliner 12-05-2008 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir Dillon (Post 257607)
How are general statements about religion (note there was no particular religion specifically mentioned or referenced within the context of the sign), that are far more easily substantiated by facts than the fiction used to rationalize religious dogma, be "based on hate"?

To state that there are "no gods, no devils, no angels..." and that "religion is but myth and susperstitions" is no more hateful than stating there is "no santa clause, easter bunny, or tooth fairy" and all "are but myth and fairytales."

The statements expressed on that sign are pretty innocuous when juxtaposed to some of the real "hate speech" found in the KJV Bible and Koran, for example.



The statements made do not attach the views of others since only general statements are being made; views that express "the beliefs of its makers."

Are they not equally entitled to their public opinions just as religious believers are?

Perhaps we should just simply turn the clock back to the days when anyone who expresses view points contrary to religion (any religion) are charged with heresy and summarily imprisoned, submitted to an inquisition, and/or executed?

S.D.

Oh pish posh, hide behind semantics all you want. The sign was made to piss people off and grab a few headlines. That's it.

I would be a much better statement if, like I said previously, it had a some charm and personality, some colorful lights perhaps or a fluffy bunny.


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