I really don't think anyone intentionally did anything bad- I just think the way they divided up the tickets was screwy and it left the door open for people to make mistakes (including the restaurant). Still, kudos to KB for keeping the Swank and making sure the server was properly tipped. I'd like to chip in as well, because that was a budget busting mistake and KB should not have to take the brunt of it.

I posted about the proper way to calculate a tip. You suggested the thread had devolved. I disagreed that the thread had devolved (at that point) because calculating proper tip percentages was germane to the topic.

One thing that bothered me that's never been done at Jazz Kitchen any of the dozens of times I've dined there, is the waitress refused to figure our (meaning my group's seperate check) AP discount into the bill until AFTER we had paid the bill.

This made it more difficult than necessary to pay the proper amount, and was completely unnecessary ... unless they have some new policy that I first experienced on Sunday.


In any event, I liked our separate check speficially so I would, for once, not have to throw in an extra $20 towards the inevitable shortage on a tab for 24 people. Oh well, best laid plans and all that.


My PayPal account's been suspended, Kevy, so will you take a hand-job next time we meet?

The "devolved" comment was in reference to Kevy talking about using sex as a gratuity.

Damn, Strike one for me.

OK, as the glutton for punishment that I am, I'll take another swing.

Chernabog's "devolved" comment came directly after the "boning" comment. So I would put forth the two are related and as such the comment was not a comment on your comments but rather a comment on the comment contained within Chernabog's comments.

I'd just like to point out that "The Jazz Kitchen Bill Cluster Fornication" would make an excellent band name.

Our meals were on separate bills. We added up the cost of our items, rounded to the nearest dollar at least, multiple of 5 if it was close, and added 30%, which I thought would be enough to cover the tax and tip. No discount was provided for.

Since it is apparently an issue, I provide for your convenience a summary of our two bills:

Rat: 19.50 for chicken bercy, 7.50 for a bloody mary of some kind, and 10 for a manhattan. There was some confusion on manhattan price - two were on the bill with NM and EH1812, same drink, different prices - one at 9 and one at 11. I was under the impression that the decision was to split the difference at 10. That gives a total bill of 37.00. Plus 30% should be 48.10, and I left $50. That should more than cover any disagreement about the drink price.

My meal (and our shared appetizer/dessert) was on the same bill as Frodo Potter and Disneyphile. That included the roman garlic bread at 7.50, the chicken penne at 17.95, 2 louisiana lemonades at 7.95 each, and pie, which I can't remember the exact price of. I think it was 6.50, but just to be EXTRA careful let's call it $8. That would be a subtotal of 49.35, which plus 30% is 64.16. I left 64 (exact change even), since the .16 was more than made up for with the overage on the previous bill.

This was all done without discount, as we left before it was applied. If I had applied the discount, it would have reduced Rat's bill by 4.96 and my bill by 4.81, which should cover any minor variations in the above accounting. Of course, you're all welcome to correct my math and/or call me a liar, whichever is more convenient for you.

We paid our portion plus 20% tip before discount then added more to the pot to cover the garlic bread we forgot to add in. Our group, which included Chris, Stoat, Bear, Kevy and I were fully covered before we left.

Something happened along the way. Either money was lifted or there were charges on the bill that were not paid for.

It is VERY frustrating to me that the money and charges were combined into one pot at the end of the meal. How do we know WHICH of the bills was under paid? That is the part that makes me think that money was taken somewhere in the process.

Also, remember when adding up what you ordered and paid the discount applies to FOOD and NON-ALCOHOLIC DRINKS ONLY.

And if my username was Jazz Kitchen Bill it would sound rather exciting, yet frightening.

I looked at my receipt (individual bill), it was $30 and change (3 course, no shared apps, no drink, no discount). I left a 17% tip, all on my card. That said, there is a check for $5 going to Kevy in today's mail.