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JWBear 05-29-2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket (Post 285264)
Is California is in worse shape now than when Grey Davis was recalled? Just curious.

Yes, by far!

JWBear 05-29-2009 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 285265)
Yes, of course we are.


Of course, I have no idea why people were so upset with Gray Davis that he had to be freaking recalled. That's absurd. I certainly didn't love the guy ... but WTF was up with that?

He wasn't Republican. So, of course he had to be eliminated at any cost.

Moonliner 05-29-2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 285268)
Yes, by far!

However I'm not sure I buy the implication that Schwarenegger is to blame for that or that the state would be in better shape had Davis stayed on.

JWBear 05-29-2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 285270)
However I'm not sure I buy the implication that Schwarenegger is to blame for that or that the state would be in better shape had Davis stayed on.

No, perhaps not. Either way though, The economic meltdown is the fault of Republican policy - at both the state and federal level.

Gemini Cricket 05-29-2009 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 285270)
However I'm not sure I buy the implication that Schwarenegger is to blame for that or that the state would be in better shape had Davis stayed on.

I don't know. That argument is as frustrating to hear as the "yeah, things were bad under Bush but just think how much worse it could have been under Gore or Kerry". There's supposing and then there's what is actually happening. Arnold is accountable for his state's economy, isn't he?

Moonliner 05-29-2009 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket (Post 285274)
I don't know. That argument is as frustrating to hear as the "yeah, things were bad under Bush but just think how much worse it could have been under Gore or Kerry". There's supposing and then there's what is actually happening. Arnold is accountable for his state's economy, isn't he?

Do the words GLOBAL FINANCIAL MELTDOWN have any relevance in this situation? Everyone everywhere is worse off.







(Ok, not "everyone" literately but you get my meaning)

SzczerbiakManiac 05-29-2009 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 285262)
I wouldn't mind a hefty marijuana tax to make it legal once and for all. I love that so many states are considering legalizing it now that it can rescue them from financial ruin, but that was not good enough when it was a harmless drug compared to alcohol and tobacco, and it grows from the frelling earth itself.

I fully support the legalization of marijuana, but to say it's harmless because it's natural is ridiculous. Oleander and hemlock are also 100% natural but I don't think anyone in their right mind would want to ingest those.

Betty 05-29-2009 01:01 PM

No - but alcohol and tobacco aren't harmless either and they are legal.

Gemini Cricket 05-29-2009 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 285278)
Do the words GLOBAL FINANCIAL MELTDOWN have any relevance in this situation? Everyone everywhere is worse off.







(Ok, not "everyone" literately but you get my meaning)

Playing devil's advocate here...
So if things were okay globally, the current CA governor should take no credit in CA doing well. Because things are great everywhere, that's why things are great in CA?

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So what happens to the 80 million park visitors? Going to the parks are a cheap alternative to spending mucho dinero at places like Disneyland. Things are already depressing, why take away the parks on top of that?

I'm also thinking that these parks aren't closed forever, right? Just for now?

Moonliner 05-29-2009 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket (Post 285286)

I'm also thinking that these parks aren't closed forever, right? Just for now?

Actually, I'm thinking this might make a great opportunity to see a bit of nature without all the tourists, rangers and other interfering factors.

At least for those willing to go it on their own so to speak.


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