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Morrigoon 07-16-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 288534)
This is a reference to the fine film PCU, about protestors who protest everything.

So they've been to my high school, have they?

innerSpaceman 07-16-2009 08:35 PM

Thanks for that, G.C. That was very moving.


Maybe not the fierce kind, but I'll grant that was clearlly some advocating.

scaeagles 07-17-2009 04:41 AM

Politician speak. Obama says much on many things and is a master of rhetoric.

Strangler Lewis 07-17-2009 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 292269)
Politician speak. Obama says much on many things and is a master of rhetoric.

True, but in this area, given the choice between a politician who preaches compassion--but does nothing to implement it--and one who preaches cruelty--but does nothing to implement it--I'd choose the former because I do believe that the official tone that is set in the world does have some effect on how people behave.

innerSpaceman 07-17-2009 08:24 AM

Clinton was the same way. All good talk and rarely good action. But even good talk is ultra rare among U.S. Presidents. So I appreciate it ... while continuing to demand much more.



Um, so far, approaching the half-century mark, my demands have yet to be met. So I've learned to be just a little bit satisfied with the good talk.

Bully Pulpit and all that.

alphabassettgrrl 07-18-2009 07:45 AM

Talk is easy, but at least he talks the right stuff.

Cadaverous Pallor 07-18-2009 08:52 AM

I finally remembered to post this:

The Obamameter

This is done by the St. Petersburg Times. What I find really interesting is what they're saying about gay issues. DADT, DOMA.

I guess they don't call it a promise broken unless he actually does the opposite. But they admit he took the language off his website...hmm.

Even if you count those as broken promises, the numbers are still surprisingly good. 32 promises kept, 10 compromises, 9 promises broken (incl DADT/DOMA), 10 stalled, 78 in the works.

Makes me wonder how the other presidents stacked up.

alphabassettgrrl 07-18-2009 09:01 AM

CP- that site is on my "check daily" set of bookmarks. Always interesting to watch his progress. I do wonder how previous presidents rank.

Cadaverous Pallor 07-21-2009 10:17 PM

So, I assume that all those here that are pissed at Obama about the gay rights stuff would disagree with the St. Petersburg Times on this?

Personally, I heard this story today and was horrified, and it's not mentioned on the site, so I sent them an email. I'm unsure if it counts as a campaign promise though.

innerSpaceman 07-22-2009 09:32 AM

In other disappointing Obama news today: In a continuation of Bush policy, he's refusing to reveal which 18 Health Insurance Industry executives he met with to consult on health care policy. Gee, Dick Cheney and Energy executives much?

Lawsuit will proceed to get the records. Obama, you are really beginning to suck and be power-mad way earlier than I feared. Hahaha, his personal physicial of 18 years just came out against Obama's health plan and staunchly in favor of single-payer ... d'uh, like overwhelmly most Americans.


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