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lashbear 09-29-2009 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bewitched (Post 300664)
I don't know what a Freeper circle jerk is, but I'm pretty sure I don't want to be one.

Isn't Freeper Circle Jerk (tm) a brand of BBQ Rub? :D

Cadaverous Pallor 09-30-2009 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazzman (Post 300678)
Extreme labels? Huh? What extreme labels have I placed on you guys? I recognized the presence of much Obama love here (which there is) but I don't remember calling anyone here names or labels. I didn't even say that the Obama love here is wrong or bad. ??? Seriously, I don't know where you got this from. If it's just a reaction to your perceived "jerkiness" in my previous post, then I guess I can get that. Otherwise, I'm a bit mystified. ???

Really. You really want me to quote the things you said above. I have to quote what you just said, and explain to you where you belittled us. Really. </sethandamy> Ok, I'll play.

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Originally Posted by Jazzman (Post 300634)
Challenge: Only respond with answers lacking any "Obama is the Messiah" sentiment.

Here. You claim that this is "snarky" but not "comedic", and that it was not supposed to be "lofty" but "rhetorical". Snarky and rhetorical, which means that you were jabbing at us in a way that is supposed to not solicit a response (which is why I'm calling you out for it). If your snark was not meant to be funny, what response did you want? Oh, right, no response at all, just a way to insult us without actually facing any music.

BTW, you can't be snarky and say that you didn't say that "Obama love was wrong or bad". That's what being snarky is.

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Originally Posted by Jazzman (Post 300640)
But, there's more Obama love-fest here than you may admit. Look back at some postings and avatars if you need proof.

I posted plenty in the past to say how much I loved Obama. I'm not afraid to face that. What gets me is that you are saying that the Obama love-fest is proof that we can't see things objectively at all. Hell, there are some here who can't, I can agree with that. But to say that all of us who supported Obama wholeheartedly in the campaign are unable to talk about him without referring to him as the messiah?

I am not a fan of everything the man has done (and hasn't done) as President. In fact some things have made me very angry. He's definitely not my messiah. Yes, I'm still a fan; yes, I still think he's a million times better than Bush; yes, I would vote for him again. But for you to speak of us with the broad brush of "they ALL feel like this ALL the time and the way they have acted in the past is PROOF" is a faulty opinion at best and a pretty serious insult at worst.

I am sick and tired of partisan bullsh.t in this f'cked up world, and I might come off as a raggy nag for it, but I am especially sick of seeing this sh.t on my favorite place on the internet. I don't care what side it comes from or how close I am to you, I am going to call you on your sh.t when you start breaking out the paint roller.

That's all.

Jazzman 09-30-2009 10:52 PM

CP, you're reading way too much into what I posted. Just because I posted a rhetorical bit of snarkiness on this board doesn't mean it was directed at you. I see and hear Obama worship every day, from every direction, and that (as I said) is what I was referring to. That whole General You thing... Or General Somebody thing, maybe. Sorry you took it as directed at you, and intensely sorry that the way I typed it made it appear that way, but nowhere did I type with the intent of stating "Everyone at the LoT worships at Obama's feet and cannot form objective opinions, because they are so smitten with His O-ness that their minds are scrambled, So Say We All!" I assure you, if I had meant to say that, I would have said that. I have no qualms about typing exactly what I feel, trust me. And yes indeed, I can be snarky and state that the Obama love isn't bad, because I wasn't being snarky about liking Obama, I was being snarky about the tendency, of many people in America, to lash out at any Obama criticism with nearly fanatical passion. People, everywhere, do that all the time and it bugs the crap out of me. I'm so terribly sorry that I referred to it here, half jokingly, and you took it as a LoT-blanketing insult and slur against your souls. It wasn't, but if telling yourself that it was soothes your feelings and justifies your misdirected anger, then so be it. I can't change your mind, but I won't admit to crimes I didn't commit.

Sheesh...


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