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SacTown Chronic 09-17-2005 01:31 PM

So where's the rollback of welfare for wealthy people, er, I mean Bush tax cuts, to pay for the huge no-bid gifts to Halliburton and friends, er, I mean giant reconstruction effort?


Fvcking crooks and liars, man. Crooks and liars.

scaeagles 09-17-2005 01:55 PM

RE: Halliburton. This is often a rallying cry for those that oppose Bush and the administration. I have two honest issues about that - I'm really not trying to be a smarta$$ (at least not this time) -

Was it OK for Clinton to give a no-bid contract to Halliburton? If so, why?

How many companies are capable fo doing what Halliburton does? Does it make sense to take the time to put this particular job - if someone else is capable of doing it - out to the process of a government bid? Do you know how long that takes? If it were put out to bid, it would take months, so absolutely nothing relating to what Halliburton does would be getting worked on.

Name 09-17-2005 01:59 PM

And since Haliburton does just about everything within their umbrella of sub-companies, well, who needs to ask for bids for any project, just give Halliburton the no-bid contract.

SacTown Chronic 09-17-2005 03:16 PM

Did Clinton start a war and then give no-bid contracts for rebuilding the conquered country to his Veep's company?

Did Clinton demote a whistleblower who spoke out against the improper awarding of no-bid contracts to the Veep's company?

Did Clinton suspend the prevailing wage law right before giving no-bid reconstruction contracts to his Veep's company?

Did Clinton's head of FEMA resign his post and start a company that provides business opportunities in Iraq?

Clinton...Clinton...Clinton. I need a BJ.

scaeagles 09-17-2005 05:56 PM

Sac - chill out. I'm not picking on Clinton. I only ask because it isn't only the Bush administration that has awarded no bid contracts to Halliburton. I had no problem with it then, and I have no problem with it now, particularly under these circumstances. Government bids take too long in certain circumstances. I know - I've bid on government contracts before and it is a long, arduous process.

PanTheMan 09-17-2005 06:04 PM

Halliburton has been a sore point as VICE PRESIDENT DICK still recieves $150,000 a year in 'Deferred Payments" from them in some sort of loophole, even though ethically it is a conflict of intrest. But "Ethics" are a rather elusive topic among politicians.

IF Clinton ever gave a contract to Halliburton (When Chaney was LEGALLY employed by them) it would not have been a problem as there were no direct ties to the Clinton administration.

The DEM Equivelant would have been if CLINTON offered a housing construction contract to WHITEWATER land development inc!!!! Can you imagine the GOP Hellstorm that would have poured out upon Clinton for that?

In Other WEIRD news , KARL ROVE was put in charge of overseeing cleanup and rebuilding expected to take until 2015???? Sounds like a nifty way to make sure he is on a payroll, long after Bushie is back shoveling cow turds in Crawford. What in the F does he know about "Clean-up and rebuilding"??? Just another Bush-Cronie job handout. Will he ever learn?

SacTown Chronic 09-17-2005 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scaeagles
I'm not picking on Clinton.

I love it when you pick on Clinton. But when you defend Bush by using Clinton...eh, not so much.


(But I loved it when you defended Dubya by bashing Bush 41 and FEMA) :evil:



Quote:

I need a BJ.
:blush: Oops, wrong thread. Crystal doesn't read many political threads.


Maybe I should try flowers?

wendybeth 09-18-2005 08:40 PM

Well, the FEMA mismanagement continues, and hits close to home:Help turned away

PanTheMan 09-18-2005 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wendybeth
Well, the FEMA mismanagement continues, and hits close to home:Help turned away


Well i agree it will take a bit of time to iron out the kinks, however i feel the guy they have now will get the job done. I have great faith that the Coast Guard has the best of experience working in these situations.

Crystal 09-19-2005 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic
:blush: Oops, wrong thread. Crystal doesn't read many political threads.
Maybe I should try flowers?

You better be glad I didn't see this sooner, otherwise I'd a been holdin' out for some flowers....next time, however... :evil:


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