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innerSpaceman 11-17-2008 07:42 PM

And I have to agree with Alex the only way to get this federalized is to take it to the U.S. Supreme Court.

And if the "Cali" Supreme Court goes against us, it seems as if we'd have a U.S. Supreme Court case right away.


Would it be wise to take it there at this time? Would they even take the case? Does the current make-up of the Court bode well, or would waiting for some potentially more liberal future Court be wiser?

Interesting questions. I wish my civil rights didn't depend on them.

Alex 11-17-2008 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 254114)
Only people who live outside of this state think that "Cali" sounds cool. :p

And people outside of California generally don't give a flying blip what people from Cali think.

Hell, I've been here a decade and I can barely bring myself to do it.

Alex 11-17-2008 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 254119)
And I have to agree with Alex the only way to get this federalized is to take it to the U.S. Supreme Court.

And if the "Cali" Supreme Court goes against us, it seems as if we'd have a U.S. Supreme Court case right away.

Are you talking about a separate case arguing against Prop 8 on 14th amendment grounds or the case arguing against Prop 8 on technical grounds as to whether it was a legitimate topic for a proposition?

Would the latter even be reviewable by the USSC? (And if so, does it seem likely they'd grant cert?)

Kevy Baby 11-17-2008 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 254091)
There's also this oft-cited excerpt from Westbrook v. Mihaly 2 Cal. 3d 756.

"constitutional rights may not be infringed simply because the majority of the people choose that they be"

Unfortunately, while I can find plenty of people making reference to the quote, I can find no details on the actual case and whether it might apply to this one.

While Alex provided the superbly researched correct answer, I was going to note that at Saturday's Irvine protest, someone had a sign crediting that quote to Abraham Lincoln.

Isaac 11-17-2008 07:49 PM


innerSpaceman 11-17-2008 07:49 PM

I'm thinking a separate case againt Prop 8 on 14th Amendment grounds because, no, I don't think the technical Prop 8 case currently before the Cali Supremes would be reviewable by the Fed Supremes.

BarTopDancer 11-17-2008 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 254118)
Hahaha. I've almost gotten so used to my Vegas friends calling it that. But just as they've taught me the correct way to pronounce "Nevada" (i.e., the way Nevadans say it), I hope to one day prevail upon them that the correct way to say California is the way Californians say it (i.e., California). ;)

You mean the proper way of saying "Nevada" isn't "Vegas"?

Gemini Cricket 11-17-2008 07:52 PM

I like "Cali" as much as I like "Frisco". Bleh!
:D

Gemini Cricket 11-17-2008 07:57 PM


Kevy Baby 11-17-2008 08:46 PM



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