First, the rims aren't at the knoll. Secondly, I sucked too when I started. Now I'm a passable player. Once you can join the clan the game will be easier for you.

You have to get sweet rims from the hermitage. You buy chewing gum and a hermit permit from the market. (Might go ahead and get several chewing gum on a string -- might need 'em.) Fish in the sewer until you get worthless trinket/geegaw/whatever. Then go to the hermitage and trade for the sweet rims.

I was stuck on the damn goblin king for so long until someone gave me a linoleum sword and some chow mein.

EH1812: what part are you sucking in? We can help!

Grrrrr...today was not fun in the KoL. Yesterday I made a Sauceror multi and got her to level 4, then applied to a great clan (I wanted to see how other clans were)...and got rejected! :( Today, I joined in at newbie chat after reading all the nice stories about it, and I asked how to use an egg, and got a nasty, expletive-laden PM about it. Plus, I got the plague. :( Then, I successfully joined a clan that had a nice ad in forums and immediately went about donating meat and goods to the stash, only to find out I couldn't remove anything (I was only going for one small part), even though I apparently have more karma than a lot of veteran members there. And those members have higher ranks than I do too. :mad: And only AFTER all that, did I notice: NO MEAT TREE! They have millions in meat, and no meat tree. And I donated meat that I needed, too. So now I'm out meat and lots of neato goods, and stuck in a tree-less clan. Grrrrrr!

Anyone that needs a bit of a boost can send one meet to leethal to get an elemental saucesphere cast on them for 100 turns. You can do this once a day. It's just a buffbot, so don't bother with a message.

Pru, that goblin king took me so stinking long!!! I used a potion of temporary greatness to help. I can cast tenacity of the snapper and ghostly shell if anyone needs it.

Well, you could always choose the "leave clan" option and bring your other character back to the Swankers...

Oh, and so far I can cast the Moxious Madrigal. At roll over tonight I should have enough to add one more.

I will most likely. I've asked them to get a tree. And I also want to wait and see if I can at least get a couple of my things back. We'll see how it goes.

I was under the impression that multis couldn't be in the same clan due to the potential abuse of exchanging stuff?

Nope, Jick himself has multis in a clan. You just can't donate things with one multi just so another can take them out. Your multis can't interact. Come over when you can!

I figure my multis play different role. I made a secondary, pastamancer category because I realized how useful that chow mein can be. I plan to contribute chow mein to the clan as a whole. This includes my other character, but isn't exclusively focused on my other character. Does that make sense?

Of course, I first need to be powerful enough to access the place what drops dry noodles.

I'm stuck. Just stuck. I can't find jack ****. I'm all alone and lost in the Kingdom of Loathing. It's just like real life, dammit. Lost and alone! Lost and alone!

I'll put something together tomorrow, to tell you where I'm at (or NOT at) and you people WILL help me.

Fie.