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lashbear 11-18-2008 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 254240)
I pronounce it to rhyme with "bam" or "jam".

Me too.... but it sounds better with a drawling southern accent - thus, "Vayam" or "Vayum" depending on how you spell fonetikly

Kevy Baby 11-18-2008 04:56 PM

Candorville is on a roll


innerSpaceman 11-18-2008 05:02 PM

Please stop posting those, Kevy. My blood pressure can't handle it.

Morrigoon 11-18-2008 05:03 PM

iSm: outreach is what's needed right now. If those comics make even a few people change their minds, that's a few more people you need to support your rights. You should be encouraged that someone is out there trying to change the minds most needing changing.

Gemini Cricket 11-18-2008 05:14 PM

I like them, too. I wonder if Bell will dedicate the whole week to the subject.

wendybeth 11-18-2008 05:16 PM

Morri hit it on the head- people need to be confronted with their prejudices before any changes in attitudes will be made. No one is comfortable admitting that they have a problem with bias or racism, least of all people who have suffered from such things themselves. Holding a mirror up is a good thing- maybe if they don't like what they see in it they will change.

Gemini Cricket 11-18-2008 05:23 PM

I read an interesting comment at the bottom of one of the hundreds of online articles I read about Prop 8. It went something like this: A woman's parents were giving her a hard time about Prop 8 and why it was so important for two female friends of theirs to call their union a marriage. The woman pointed out to them that after 15 years of commitment they were more than just girlfriends. So the woman asked her parents what if she decided not to acknowledge their (her parents') marriage any more. She started referring to her father as her mom's boyfriend and her mom as her dad's friend. They were offended at that saying that after 40 some odd years they deserved to be called husband and wife. She then pointed out that it was the same for their lesbian friends. No different. She said that this discussion with her parents started them thinking differently about the subject. I thought that was great.
:)

innerSpaceman 11-18-2008 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon (Post 254424)
iSm: outreach is what's needed right now. If those comics make even a few people change their minds, that's a few more people you need to support your rights. You should be encouraged that someone is out there trying to change the minds most needing changing.

See, I don't see them as outreach. I see them as scolding. Black people are not going to be convinced by scolding them or telling them what disgusting hypocrits they are.

Now, granted, I'm not the one to be doing the outreach. But I can certainly tell you why that is.


Those comics are NOT outreach.

Gemini Cricket 11-18-2008 05:34 PM

I disagree. I see them as outreach. Mr. Bell is African American and is making a commentary about the Yes votes on 8. I think it's great.

Alex 11-18-2008 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 254434)
See, I don't see them as outreach. I see them as scolding. Black people are not going to be convinced by scolding them or telling them what disgusting hypocrits they are.

Even if that's all it is, is this scolding any less appropriate than scolding Mormons and members of Saddleback Chruch by standing outside their temples and press conferences chanting and holding signs?


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