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sleepyjeff 05-15-2008 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 211123)
Is that:

George Bush concerned citizen pledging 1/2 Million of his own money

or

George Bush President of the United States offering 1/2 Million on behalf of our country?

That's what I was wondering:confused:

Alex 05-15-2008 03:14 PM

$500,000 was the initial pledge on Tuesday prior to knowing any real information about the extent of the damage and the need and whether China was even willing to accept it (they, like the U.S., haven't historically been keen on taking foreign aid after disasters).

As much as Bush sucks, during his administration, the U.S. hasn't been stingy with relief aid and money following natural disasters. I'm sure that if more money is needed (China, after all, does have a several metric ****loads of cash on hand), it will be forthcoming.

innerSpaceman 05-15-2008 03:44 PM

Really? The were pretty stingy with Katrinia relief money, despite the hollow words of pledging. FEMAldahide trailers come immediately to mind.


Guess domestic disasters don't rate.

Alex 05-15-2008 04:00 PM

You won't find me in any way defending our ability to efficiently and effectively spend money. But that is the beauty of international aid:

1. We don't generally spend the cash, we just give it to other people.
2. The military is allowed much greater leeway in the way they can be involved. And say what you will but when our military has clear well defined tasks they are generally pretty good at accomplishing them; with Katrina being a decent example, most of the governmental success stories came out of the military's limited ability to get involved. (Not that our military is going to get anywhere near inner China).

€uroMeinke 05-15-2008 07:46 PM

Didn't mean my post to be a criticism on Bush rather, it struck me odd to come across these two figures, half a million and twenty million and thought it spoke scores about what we value, or what our politicians value anyway.

BDBopper 05-16-2008 07:50 AM

Uh oh. Someone finally came up with the only way to give McCain a chance in November. But will he listen?

3894 05-16-2008 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDBopper (Post 211292)

Except. McCain will still be the war candidate. Here's a compendium of polls about the Iraq War.

In a totally unrelated aside: my husband will be a delegate at the Wisconsin Democratic Convention, mid-June.

sleepyjeff 05-16-2008 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3894 (Post 211293)
In a totally unrelated aside: my husband will be a delegate at the Wisconsin Democratic Convention, mid-June.

Hey that's really cool. Tell him congratulations and I hope he has a lot of fun.

:snap:

BDBopper 05-16-2008 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3894 (Post 211293)
Except. McCain will still be the war candidate. Here's a compendium of polls about the Iraq War.

In a totally unrelated aside: my husband will be a delegate at the Wisconsin Democratic Convention, mid-June.

Right. However it is very clear that the economy is the biggest issue in this campaign. The war is playing second fiddle to domestic issues. The only state during the primary process where the war in Iraq was the biggest issue according to the voters was Vermont.

And best of luck to your husband. No matter what side it is great to see people involved in the political process. I had full intentions of being a delegate for the state of Georgia's Republican convention. Unfortunately I was ill the morning of the county convention and that first step was required if you wanted to be a delegate. Let' me back up. I had full intentions to try to become a delegate. I probably would have not become one because I just joined the Republican Party recently in an attempt to help change it.

Ghoulish Delight 05-16-2008 03:12 PM

The name John Hagee may haunt McCain for a while.


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