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Gemini Cricket 07-16-2008 01:02 PM

Conservatives have hope, too. They hope Jeb will follow Obama.
:D

scaeagles 07-16-2008 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 225423)
Whether Clinton did or did not do the right thing is irrelevant in response to that inane billboard.

Hey, all I was doing was responding to JW saying that the Clinton admin warned the Bush admin about bin Laden. If Clinton had taken bin Laden there would have been no need for the warning. I'm not addressing the billboard.

But while we're at it, if it is logical to say Bush is responsible for 9/11 because the warning wasn't heeded, then it is also logical to say that Bush is reponsible for no attacks on American soil now. I'm not saying either is logical, I'm saying that I don't understand why the first is logical, as JW seems to think based on his posting.

JWBear 07-16-2008 01:30 PM

The investigation into the USS Cole attack did not conclude until 1/19/01 - the day before Bush's inauguration. Later that month, the evidence was presented to Bush, who did nothing.

Yeah... It's all Clinton's fault...

JWBear 07-16-2008 01:33 PM

On another track... I don't know why I find him fascinating, but...

Omar bin Laden, the peace advocate


But dude, that hair... Seriously!

scaeagles 07-16-2008 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 225441)
The investigation into the USS Cole attack did not conclude until 1/19/01 - the day before Bush's inauguration. Later that month, the evidence was presented to Bush, who did nothing.

Yeah... It's all Clinton's fault...


I didn't say that. You are the one saying it is all Bush's fault. I'm saying it's all the fault of the terrorists. Clinton could have done more. Bush could have done more. Neither were involved in the attacks themselves. Unless you are a conspiracy theorist.

Gemini Cricket 07-16-2008 01:42 PM

I posted the article for the billboard and him pimping his single, btw. Didn't mean to start yet another row about Bush, 9/11 and Clinton.
:)

Ghoulish Delight 07-16-2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 225449)
I didn't say that. You are the one saying it is all Bush's fault. I'm saying it's all the fault of the terrorists. Clinton could have done more. Bush could have done more. Neither were involved in the attacks themselves. Unless you are a conspiracy theorist.

I'm not sure I'm seeing where JW said it was "Bush's fault". He, rightly, pointed out that Bush did not prevent 9/11, which is a perfectly salient point in response to a stupid billboard that is trying to convince people that a Republican President will make us immune to terrorist attacks.

Alex 07-16-2008 01:52 PM

The real point is that if Carter hadn't killed the Shah, then none of this would have happened.

Yes, I know that isn't historically accurate or particularly sensible. But then most of the arguments on who is to blame for allowing 9/11 suffer the same issues.

scaeagles 07-16-2008 01:53 PM

I read his "they had 7 months to do something and did nothing" comment as blame assignment.

Ghoulish Delight 07-16-2008 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 225459)
I read his "they had 7 months to do something and did nothing" comment as blame assignment.

Read it whatever way you want, the reality is all that it means is that to claim that Democrat=death by terrorists and Republican=safe from terrorists is a load of sh*t.


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