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Alex 07-23-2008 12:41 PM

What's the turn about? Has anybody called Obama's citizenship and technical qualification to be president into question?


Personally, on this issue (which came up in 2000 as well), my view is that the only reasonable way to read "natural born citizen" is anybody who was legally entitled to their citizenship simply be being born. Yeah, it is ambiguous but I agree with the sentiment at the end of the article that no court is ever going to come within a mile of overturning an election on such subtle grounds (insert Bush v. Gore jokes here).

Plus, I'd point out that the citizenship qualification is natural born citizen or citizen at time the constitution was adopted. McCain clearly meets the second qualification.

But I've also long been in favor of removing all of the qualifications listed in the constitution altogether. If a 12 year old German who has never visited the United States can successfully convince the American public to elect her president then so be it.

JWBear 07-23-2008 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 226688)
That happened a while ago and was dropped pretty much immediately, as I recall (I didn't read the link, but I figure it's the same thing that happened about 6 months ago or so).

I'm curious, though.....turnabout for what?

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 226691)
What's the turn about? Has anybody called Obama's citizenship and technical qualification to be president into question?


Personally, on this issue (which came up in 2000 as well), my view is that the only reasonable way to read "natural born citizen" is anybody who was legally entitled to their citizenship simply be being born. Yeah, it is ambiguous but I agree with the sentiment at the end of the article that no court is ever going to come within a mile of overturning an election on such subtle grounds (insert Bush v. Gore jokes here).

Plus, I'd point out that the citizenship qualification is natural born citizen or citizen at time the constitution was adopted. McCain clearly meets the second qualification.

But I've also long been in favor of removing all of the qualifications listed in the constitution altogether. If a 12 year old German who has never visited the United States can successfully convince the American public to elect her president then so be it.

Awhile ago, some conservative blogs were questioning Obama's qualifications for reasons that were even more ridiculous.

See here.

BarTopDancer 07-31-2008 09:20 AM

How much of Exxon's $11.68 billion profit is going to its shareholders and employees?

Alex 07-31-2008 09:22 AM

By definition, all of it.

Alex 07-31-2008 09:23 AM

Well, by definition, all of it is going to shareholders. Employee compensation is an expense and diminishes profit.

BDBopper 08-03-2008 08:24 AM

I am so ticked right now at the Chattering class. Over the past week they have been beating the idea into people's heads that the Huckabee supporters are bigots because we did not support the dinglecheese, Romney because Romney is a Mormon. This is complete BS and I would like to beat these morons by the side of the head with a baseball bat :mad:


Fab 08-03-2008 09:31 AM

People on both sides didn't support Romney because of the Mormonism. I don't care what religion someone is, so long as they don't try to start the apocalypse in the Middle East so that they can force Jesus to come back early; I also don't appreciate someone using their personal religion to tell me what and whom I can do stuff with in my personal life, and my body.

And that last sentence just made my former English teacher's head kerplode.

BDBopper 08-04-2008 02:29 PM

I am Not A Bigot

Tenigma 08-04-2008 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BDBopper (Post 229740)
I am Not A Bigot

"Waiting for Bigot."

har har har.

Gemini Cricket 08-04-2008 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenigma (Post 229769)
"Waiting for Bigot."

har har har.

Okay, I admit it. I lol'ed.
:D


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