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innerSpaceman 09-12-2008 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morrigoon (Post 239381)
it's been interesting watching you decide where to go from there.

Don't mistake me, then. It's not "reason enough" for me to vote for him, though it's one of many reasons Obama's a better choice than McCain.


I reject both of them. The election in November is about my civil rights, and both major party candidates stand in the way of that.

Tom 09-12-2008 04:32 PM

iSm -
I respect your position and am not trying to change it, but I wondered if you had taken the Supreme Court into your calculus, since gay marriage legislation would seem likely to go through the US Supreme Court at some point, and the next president is likely to appoint at least 2 or 3 justices. Of course there is no guarantee that justices appointed by Obama would favor gay marriage, but I think it is more likely than not, and I am certain that McCain's election will cement an anti-gay marriage Supreme Court for at least a generation.

scaeagles 09-12-2008 04:37 PM

As ISM pointed out, his vote in CA probably means next to nothing because Obama is going to win CA. If it were close, he might not have the luxury of not casting his vote.

innerSpaceman 09-12-2008 04:59 PM

Of course, if my vote counted, I'd vote for Obama.


It doesn't.


So I'm going to protest HIS, the candidate's, stance on gay marriage rights and his disgusting statement that he's using his religious views to dictate American policy (though I think he's lying, making the matter even worse).


If I lived in Ohio, I'd suck it up and vote for Obama for a myriad of reasons ... Supreme Court appointees among them.




But then again ... if I was a gay man living in Ohio ... I'd likely move to California. ;)

JWBear 09-12-2008 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepyjeff (Post 239383)
I am against ALL voter fraud....that includes voter supression(like Obama did to his State Senatorial district--he supressed the will of those who wanted to vote for his oponent).....I guess I am not sophisticated enough to say some voter fraud is ok and some isn't(and surprise surprise, the kind I don't mind too much this week is the kind my candidate has participated in:rolleyes: )


btw: I really like you and I hope to G-d my posts don't come off as if I don't....because I do:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)



By that standard, every candidate commits "voter fraud" whenever they become their party's sole candidate. :rolleyes:

Using a legal option to challenge other candidates’ presence on a ballot is in no way shape or form voter suppression. That’s not apples and oranges, that’s apples and automobiles!

Typical Republican half truths and innuendoes.

scaeagles 09-12-2008 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 239409)
Typical Republican half truths and innuendoes.


Like how in 2004 (or 2000 - I lose track) there were charges of voter suppression when people tried to get in line to vote after the polls closed?

Typical Democrat half truths and innuendoes.

Tom 09-13-2008 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 239408)
Of course, if my vote counted, I'd vote for Obama.


It doesn't.

Of course, you've said all this already. Sorry, it was a long day.

Morrigoon 09-13-2008 09:38 AM

iSm: If you were FOR either candidate, watching you decide wouldn't be half so interesting

Not Afraid 09-14-2008 02:49 PM

For the past week, I have been spending the night at a clients house. I did not have internet access so I turned on the TV at several points. Aparently the client prefers Fox News, because that's what I got whenever I turned on the set and I got to hear bits of this "new program" while I was searching for something watchable.

I've heard the disdain on this board about Fox news but had really never experienced it first hand. All I have to say is WTF? PEOPLE ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THIS DRIVEL AND CONSIDER THIS A VALUED NEWS SOURCE??????

I am shocked and appalled that this is considered a valuable source of news. Actually, a better word for it would be completely disgusted. I had no idea.

scaeagles 09-14-2008 03:02 PM

What were you watching? They have several opinion programs which would be similar to watching Keith Olberman or Chris Matthews on MSNBC.


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