They're given a map to a camp, a map to a well with fresh water, flint, rice, reward goodies (come on--one group got a coffee machine that plugged into a tree stump--that's survival?), yadda yadda. I say dump 'em on an island and see what they can do without the aid of the structured challenges, rewards, assistance, etc.

I don't want to see them do obstacle courses and art projects. I want to see who drops out first if they're left to their own devices.

Well, I guess the electric tree stump doesn't really count as survival.

Any thoughts on last nights show? Here's mine...

- I'm still trying to figure out how or why Celie is still there.

- I hope Shane sticks around, for no other reason than he is entertaining.

- I still haven't changed my mind that most of these contestants are dumber than a sack of potatos.

- I am enjoying watching all the strategic curve balls the producers are coming up with. It's nice to see old tactics get shaken up a bit.

I was annoyed when, once again, a "huge twisted" lasted all of one episode. Even with the curveball of Mr. Miyagi spending 3 days on exile island, once again the amazing hook at the beginning of the seasons turns out to be nearly meaningless. Bleh.

Incidentally, they didn't show much of Miyagi out there. I'm thinking that may mean he found the idol.

Celie is still there due to one of the best uses of tears in the history of Survivor.

Interesting theory. I noticed the lack of coverage, other than his karate practice, but didn't consider that. Could be.

And I agree that merging so quickly was pretty disappointing. I would like to have seen how it played it out.

And yeah, that was a pretty smart move on Celie's part. I guess I'm just surprised that it had as much of an effect as it apparently did.

I had read that the production costs would be too high to keep the four groups separate. Or so said the producers.

Electric tree stump! - Eh, I'll pass

did anyone else all of Shane's whining and complaining, begging to be sent home and finally, agreeing to stay?:rolleyes:

Aras should be thankful that Shane is a psycho. When he told the girls that one of the 2 of them would be going home and he hadn't decided which one, it was only Shane's assinine comments that took the focus away from him.

Shane keeps blaming his behavior on his lack of nicotine, but there is more to it than that. He is a nutjob.

Time for the weekly bump. It is on in just over an hour (PST).