:D

Very good, I think I can live with that! :)

No, he called it little Beirut because it has a reputation for violent protest. He didn't even coin the phrase and both his Father and Bill Clinton, durring their administrations, have used the reference to our fair City(I know, this isn't about Clinton :rolleyes: )

What really chaps my hide is that most of these protesters are not even from Portland, but are from all around the country and attend local colleges from as far away as Eugene and Seatle.....and for some reason anytime there is someone of note in Portland they come down here and tie up traffic at best and destroy property and assault innocents at worse :mad:

It's not even a party thing as they have done this to many others outside the Republican party most recently at a Hillary Clinton book signing(I know, this isn't about Clinton :rolleyes: ).

I would never belittle the victims of the attacks on 9/11. I'm sorry if it came off that way. I was citing the figure in contrast to what this President has wrought in a foreign country that had nothing to do with those attacks. It's my opinion that it was the Bush administration who belittled those events by using them as an opportunity to launch the war in Iraq.

Fair enough......... :)

Are you two channeling SacTown and Scaeagles?

:D ...lol. Just wait until the mid-term elections.

Ha-ha! My arguments are with The Man, man.

I never said I condoned the stupid protestors either. I dont mind protesting if it doesnt interfere with how things normally work, but I will agree that they did get out of hand and do so fairly frequently in portland, something in the water I guess. As for the little beirut comment he restated it during his republican get together here in Oregon and the context was more than just the "violence" of the protestors.

The police "borrowing" was in the Williamatte week, and portland mercury, and a small blurb of it was in the Oregonian. I know the library keeps older copies of the Oregonian, but I am not sure if they keep copies past a week or two of the Mercury, and Williamette week. If you had some way of acessing the portland city records its in there too, as the council had to vote on it.

And though I may sound like a democrat, I am not. I am a Libertarian and thats only because its the closest party to how I feel, but I disagree with things they beleive too. I personally think its wrong to let your party define your thinking, for me every issue is different; I may side with republicans on one issue and dems on another. I feel insulted that some people think you have to have this undying allegiance to one side or the other, I think it only serves to narrow your options, and frankly life is not black and white like that. The Libertarian party even wants to me to subscribe to only their theories I get stupid junk mail from them every once in a while that only serves to annoy the hell out of me. I think there should be a game show where staunch republicans and staunch democrats try to kill each other, (and any other party thats nuts) that would at least be entertaining. Republican and Democrat survivor would take care of a few problems. :)

Never doubted that the President asked for help police wise from forces across the country....many were there, proud to be a part of it(and I am sure the DC Police were thankfull)....................however, my take on anything is never similar to what the likes of the Mercury would report.

:)

That can't be - I would never say "fair enough" about anything Sac said.

I haven't gotten involved in this because I really don't care about it. I will simply say that I do not think that should Kerry have been elected there would not be such an uproar over any such spending of private money on these events.

There are always better things to spend money on than huge parties.