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Nephythys 08-17-2006 11:15 AM

My daughter has been tarted up for dance recitals.

Comments?

No? When you become a parent you realize that you were a fool for thinking you could judge others for their parenting.

I am baffled by the "facts" of the case-been a while since I looked at it too closely even though I live out here in CO.

Stan4dSteph 08-17-2006 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup
If you are made uneasy by the child pageant industry I recommend (again) seeing Little Miss Sunshine. It completely and perfectly skewers it.

Did you ever see the HBO America Undercover documentary "Living Dolls: The Making of a Child Beauty Queen?" Here's a newspaper article about it.

It was a rather disturbing look at the child pageant industry.

The Pop Warner cheerleaders have begun to practice on the fields near where I play soccer. I find preteens performing sexed up cheer routines to be inappropriate.

Alex 08-17-2006 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys
My daughter has been tarted up for dance recitals.

Comments?

Well, if your daughter was tarted up like the girl (8 years old!) in this screenshot from the Dr. Phil show, I don't so much have a comment as a question:



Why do you want your daughter to be a sex object?

Nephythys 08-17-2006 11:33 AM

Hmmm-

Confession says he drugged Jon Benet- autopsy showed no drugs

There is another link saying this could be a hoax confession- site is down.

No Alex- my daughter was not tarted up like that. Stage makeup- hair in a pony tail. My point is, you can't judge by such things without knowing more.

I don't like Libby Lu (nor does my daughter) and I don't have any plans to make her a beauty queen-but I do let her wear make up on special occasions.

But you kinda proved my point......that's all.

Alex 08-17-2006 11:44 AM

And nobody hear has judged letting a child wear make-up.

And I haven't judged any parenting. I asked a question. Without a doubt the parents of the girls in thise elite child pageants are allowing the sexualization of their child. My judgment would depend on the answer as to why.

I have also judged an industry. I find the idea of gathering 8-year-olds to pick the prettiest one to be asinine, independent of what it may say about individual parents. Especially if the method of picking the prettiest one is to first completely alter the appearance of the 8-year-olds in question so that they look like 20-year-olds. Hair, eyelashes, teeth, and tan on that girl in those pictures are all fake. Why not go all the way and pad the breasts?

Carl Lewis was on The Best Damned Sports Show Period! the other night and it was mentioned he would be judging the Miss Teen USA Pageant. The awkwardness of this endeavor was make clear. When asked what he would be looking for he almost blushed and tried to protest that there was nothing prurient about it. He said he didn't really know the criteria but that he had been told to look for symmetry but he was confused since girls that age are supposed to have "symmetry." I just found it immorative. The awkwardness of five guys talking about judging the looks of teenagers (who, at least biologically, actually are sexualized).

Nephythys 08-17-2006 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup
And nobody hear has judged letting a child wear make-up.

Wrong- they had a discussion just above about the age of letting girls wear make up.

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And I haven't judged any parenting. I asked a question. Without a doubt the parents of the girls in thise elite child pageants are allowing the sexualization of their child. My judgment would depend on the answer as to why.

Did not say you did.

But other people did....and that was what I responded to. You just rounded it out.

Ghoulish Delight 08-17-2006 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys
Wrong- they had a discussion just above about the age of letting girls wear make up.

Actually, the comment seemed more about capitulating to a 3 year old throwing a demanding tantrum. The only other reference to makeup and age was clearly sarcasm.

SzczerbiakManiac 08-17-2006 12:28 PM

I see a big difference between little girls wearing make-up for a dance recital or starring in a play vs. getting "tarted up" (which involves a lot more than just make-up) for a pre-pubescent beauty pageant. I have no problems with the former but the latter creeps me out.

Nephythys 08-17-2006 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight
Actually, the comment seemed more about capitulating to a 3 year old throwing a demanding tantrum. The only other reference to makeup and age was clearly sarcasm.

so?

I just asked a question based on some of the comments above.

Nephythys 08-17-2006 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac
I see a big difference between little girls wearing make-up for a dance recital or starring in a play vs. getting "tarted up" (which involves a lot more than just make-up) for a pre-pubescent beauty pageant. I have no problems with the former but the latter creeps me out.


I agree. But some people make judgements based on what they see, rather than what is real.

Legal analyst says confession could be hoax


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