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Alex 04-28-2009 01:45 PM

How about this.

I'll send Kevy $120 and you all make sure I never pay for my own drink again at a Disney theme park.


(And yes, I'm sure that participation in this thread by people who weren't even there is really helping.)

Ghoulish Delight 04-28-2009 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 280497)
How about this.

I'll send Kevy $120 and you all make sure I never pay for my own drink again at a Disney theme park.

Pending revelation of some sort of enforcement plan for this agreement, I will tentatively accept.

keith - SuPeR K! 04-28-2009 01:48 PM

Will $5 from everyone cover what Kevy overpaid?

wolfy999 04-28-2009 01:50 PM

24 x $5.00 = $120.00....yep that would do it.

NirvanaMan 04-28-2009 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac (Post 280431)
Tips are always to be calculated on the full, non-discounted amount. It doesn't matter if the discount was 10% or 100%, one must figure tip as if there was no discount. The server's job is not any easier because one has a coupon or is boning the manager.

Agree but will play devil's advocate as this is something that always puzzled me.

Is the servers job harder at a more expensive restaurant than a TGI Friday's or Denny's? The food is much cheaper at those sorts of places (which I don't frequent anyway, but for the sake of the argument) but are they working any less hard?

Anyway, I agree you tip on pre-discount but you also tip on pre-tax. Those pretty much net out in this case.

While we are at it, what is the proper ettiquite for tipping on booze with dinner? Standard at a pub is generally a buck a drink. Now a bit different when you are talking about a $250 bottle of wine. I mean, it's no different than opening a $50 bottle of wine. I have heard different rules for this. Wonder what everyone's thoughts are?

Snowflake 04-28-2009 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NirvanaMan (Post 280516)
While we are at it, what is the proper ettiquite for tipping on booze with dinner? Standard at a pub is generally a buck a drink. Now a bit different when you are talking about a $250 bottle of wine. I mean, it's no different than opening a $50 bottle of wine. I have heard different rules for this. Wonder what everyone's thoughts are?

itipping.com and tippingetiquette are one of many tipping advice sites. ymmv, of course.

I found this interestding on the tippingetiquette site:

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Dog walker or sitter - 1-2 week's pay.
Hello, NA, do you get tipped?

Not Afraid 04-28-2009 02:20 PM

I don't drink, but if I did, I would tip the same amount on both food and booze.

Betty 04-28-2009 02:24 PM

I generally double the tax when I tip if the service has been acceptable. I have no issues tipping less for crappy service or tipping more for great service. In fact, we visit the pancake house in corona nearly every weekend for sat. breakfast and always tip well because the service is (usually) better then everywhere else.

What annoys me is when I'm "expected" to tip a certain percentage no matter how lousy the service was. Just because you're in a large group does not mean the service is acceptable...

... but I wasn't there and have no business in this thread. Right?

And frankly, I don't tip for other stuff - such as the mailman at Christmas.

SzczerbiakManiac 04-28-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 280482)
The "devolved" comment was in reference to Kevy talking about using sex as a gratuity.

[start hair-splitting]
Kevy never suggested a sexual gratuity. In fact, at that point (and throughout most of this thread) Kevy had been all business. Cherny is the one who suggested sex-for-tip in the very same post that he suggested the thread had devolved (#6).
[end hair-splitting]
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Just a friendly suggestion that has worked well for large groups I have been in: nobody leaves the restaurant until the entire bill has been properly resolved. (Or their separate check, if they have to leave early.) This may seem draconian, but I think it's far better than sticking someone for the bill due to an honest mistake (or 12).

innerSpaceman 04-28-2009 02:34 PM

I'm also disappointed the separate bills were piled together. That's cluster fornication recipe right there.

But to suggest that someone lifted the money is far worse than suggesting that someone really cheaped out on their tab.


I believe enough people have already offered to throw in five bucks so that Kevy should have a handsome profit. Can we get to the part where we send or transmit the funds?


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