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Kevy Baby 05-19-2009 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 283923)
Well, it looks like the voters rejected every single one of the props except for the one that definitely will have absolutely no significant budgetary impact.

But it was the one that they could feel good about voting for

JWBear 05-19-2009 10:43 PM

How much money did we spend on this election? :rolleyes:

Alex 05-19-2009 10:53 PM

Probably less than it would have cost to pay interest on the tax returns that wouldn't have gone out if the budget compromise requiring this election hadn't been reached.

Cadaverous Pallor 05-20-2009 07:57 AM

Why do they keep trying to pass the buck onto us to make these decisions?? Isn't it their job??

scaeagles 05-20-2009 08:46 AM

How are ballot initiatives put on the ballot in CA? Are there certain things that are required to go to the people in that form or is it accomplished by people getting signatures to get a specific proposition on the ballot?

Alex 05-20-2009 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 283984)
Why do they keep trying to pass the buck onto us to make these decisions?? Isn't it their job??

Because, in another bit of the proposition stupidity (in my opinion), things that are passed through the proposition process have to be changed through it.

So, if the state legislature wants to fiddle with Prop 98, it has to be approved by Prop 1B, for example. The California Citizens Compensation Commission was created by Prop 112 in 1990 and therefore changes to its mandate have to be addressed through proposition (Prop 1F in this case). I don't know for sure that this is the reason for all of the props being propositions but most of the time when the state legislature or governor put propositions on a ballot this is the reason why.

So they did make the decisions as far as they could and would have made most of these changes if it was in their power.


You may recall that this was also Schwarzenegger's justification for vetoing the gay marriage bills passed by the legislature while saying he was personally fine with it. Since the definition of marriage as between a man and a woman was passed by Prop 22 he said it was outside the jurisdiction of the legislature to change it and therefore either the courts would have to overturn or the people would have to pass a new proposition repealing it.

JWBear 05-20-2009 09:13 AM

Both. Citizens may gather signatures to get a proposition on the ballot. Also, if the state legislature passes a proposed amendment to the state constitution, it then automatically goes before the electorate for approval.

€uroMeinke 05-20-2009 10:31 PM

We had an election?

wendybeth 05-21-2009 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke (Post 284081)
We had an election?

There were also a few earthquakes.;)

JWBear 05-21-2009 08:22 AM

This is how I read this:

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke (Post 284081)
We had an erection?



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