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Ghoulish Delight 12-22-2009 10:00 AM

And as bitter juries go, this one was nothing. That final tribal was probably the least bitter, petty, and whiny in the history of the game.

Moonliner 12-22-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 310025)
Russell lost because he got arrogant and it showed through. He went too far. It's one thing to look at the jury and say, "I'm the best that's ever played this game and I should win," it's another thing to come at them with the attitude of, "I'm the best that's ever played this game, and you're all morons."

Yup, I would agree he lost it with his jury speech (or in the stuff we were never shown)

Still, Natalie? I think the mouse she smacked played a better game.

That $10,000 offer from Russel was weird. For ten grand you could paint me purple and have me say "I want Russel's love child" on National TV. How could you turn that down? TV people are weird.


Oh well, time to move on....

Here is the cast list for season 20:

Spoiler:
http://www.homorazzi.com/article/sur...s-contestants/

Russel should have the advantage that no one knows his game. I wonder how well he knows past players.


It should be an interesting season if the Hero's don't decimate the villains in every challenge.

Ghoulish Delight 12-22-2009 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 310032)
That $10,000 offer from Russel was weird. For ten grand you could paint me purple and have me say "I want Russel's love child" on National TV. How could you turn that down? TV people are weird.

Well, she did JUST become $1,000,000 richer. In the face of that $10,000 (or even the $100,000 he later upped the offer to) isn't quite as tempting I'd imagine.

I don't really think he lost it in his final speech. I thought he played that as best as he could, really. "Out of the 3 of us, I did the most to ensure that you guys are sitting over there and I'm sitting over here." I think he lost it well before that with his overall attitude. I'm guessing that there was a lot more animosity towards him than was ever shown, just to keep things suspenseful so we didn't realize just how much people disliked him.

If anything in the last episode cost him, it was the lip service he paid to Brett about wanting to go up against the best player before voting him out. That was unnecessary and utterly transparent.

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It should be an interesting season if the Hero's don't decimate the villains in every challenge.
Or if any of the heroes who lost previously decide they've learned their lessons and drop the hero game. Definite potential for topping the all-time most petty meltdowns (Lex, and then Ethan).

Betty 12-22-2009 11:32 AM

I started out hating Russell but by the end of the season, he'd grown on me.

I wonder if he had some sort of outside bet that we was trying to win the with the $10,000 thing. Maybe his bet wasn't that he would win, but that Jeff would say that he was the sole survivor (or whatever it is he says).

Moonliner 12-22-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 310036)
Well, she did JUST become $1,000,000 richer. In the face of that $10,000 (or even the $100,000 he later upped the offer to) isn't quite as tempting I'd imagine.

I know a lot of charities that might feel different about it. I don't care how much I just won I'd still take the offer. I missed that Russel upped the offer. I thought Jeff was just misquoting him when he cited $100k.

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 310036)
If anything in the last episode cost him, it was the lip service he paid to Brett about wanting to go up against the best player before voting him out. That was unnecessary and utterly transparent.

He had already gone up against Brett and beat him in the challenge. Game over. There was no need for the "Lip Service". It makes me wonder if the producers ask the players to answer questions like "Why might you keep Brett around?" to build suspense.

Moonliner 12-22-2009 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Betty (Post 310038)
I started out hating Russell but by the end of the season, he'd grown on me.

I wonder if he had some sort of outside bet that we was trying to win the with the $10,000 thing. Maybe his bet wasn't that he would win, but that Jeff would say that he was the sole survivor (or whatever it is he says).

Hummm...

Spoiler:
Interesting thought, given that Russel had completed a second season of Survivor by the time he made the offer...

Ghoulish Delight 12-22-2009 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 310039)
He had already gone up against Brett and beat him in the challenge. Game over. There was no need for the "Lip Service". It makes me wonder if the producers ask the players to answer questions like "Why might you keep Brett around?" to build suspense.

I always wonder about all that. How many times have people just destroyed themselves with pedaintradontal (foot-in-mouth) crap at tribal? I know that if I were there, Jeff would hate me because every answer I'd give would be completely non-committal and boring. A whole lot of, "I'm basing my vote on what I think the correct decision is." It makes me wonder if, A) these people are really that bad at the game, B) the hunger and exhaustion really do make it hard to realize just how damaging their answers are before they spill out of their mouth, C) they're more interested in portraying a certain character for the audience so people will remember them than they are in winning the game, or D) it's in their contract that they will provide more than vagueries for answers at tribal council lest lose claim to any prize winnings. Because holy hell, how hard is it so say, "I'm not stupid Jeff, I'm not answering your question."

mousepod 12-22-2009 12:36 PM

My understanding is that tribal council goes on for hours. At some point, I'm sure each person says something that can be used by the editors to create a good moment.

Ghoulish Delight 12-22-2009 12:39 PM

Of course, what everyone seems to forget is...Natalie looks way better in her underwear than Russel does (in either hers, or his own). That's worth something.

Disneyphile 12-22-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Disneyphile (Post 300234)
I think they're totally setting up to do an All-Star "Heroes vs. Villians" season. They have enough contestants from each extreme now to make it a fun show. It'd be interesting to see all the bad kids together - Johnny Fairplay, Russell, etc. Just imagine what they'd do to each other. ;)

I'd like to announce that I'll be opening my psychic hotline soon. :D

Frightening that I even nailed the title. And, I swear I had absolutely no inside info. :)


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