Lounge of Tomorrow - The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

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Originally Posted by Prudence (Post 255082)

I'm not disputing that many individuals have altruistic leanings, but working as individuals is inefficient and ineffective.

Perhaps....but a bag of groceries handed over the back fence to one's neighbor is 100% efficient. How full will that bag be after being passed around by our "charitable" politicians and bureaucrats?

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In this situation, yes. And I realize that this is the fundamental point on which we will differ. It's not that I think people are essentially bad, but I think people have a fundamental desire to shirk responsibility. And maybe that's just me projecting my own failings onto the world around me, but in a society as spread out as ours has become, it's easy to convince one's self that someone else will clean up the messes.

Perhaps in a different time, I would have had a different response. If our world was still more community-oriented and we knew our neighbors and there would be a real social shaming of those who skipped out on their share of the community support I would choose to trust people over the government.

I think you are right but perhaps the reason we shirk responsibility and are less community-oriented can be blamed on the government.....and perhaps not. I suppose it might be a chicken and egg thing.

Again, I'd like to thank you for your thoughtful, honest response to my posts.

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Sleepyjeff,

Prudence's very eloquent response above is exactly how I wanted to respond.

I just want to add that I am in the government social services field. I can't tell you how many people have come to us after being turned away from church charities because they weren't the right religion, color, marital status or sexual orientation. Even private secular charities sometimes discriminate to a degree. Government does not, can not.

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 255099)

Sleepyjeff,

Even private secular charities sometimes discriminate to a degree. Government does not, can not.

A fair point.

lol!
:D

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THAT although we didn't think it would be possible to silence Ann Coulter, the leggy reactionary broke her jaw and the mouth that roared has been wired shut

Source
Hmm, NYP Page Six... gossip... but if it's true, there is a god!

You know, I can't think of the last time I heard anything from her. Definitely nothing since the republican primary was decided.

scaeagles must be so sad!

Unfortunately, I don't think we'd heard the last of her vomitous ravings.

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Originally Posted by sleepyjeff (Post 258810)

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/toons/asay/asay1.asp

Re-writing history much?

I really didn't think that Blagojevich would be able to find someone of any prominence willing to accept the nomination from him.

I don't know this Burris guy from Adam but in reading an article about him I ended up on this page (a larger, text legible version here)

Not only has the man already purchased his cemetery plot, but he has already placed the monument. And adorned it with his life accomplishments. As first I thought maybe the slot on the right was already filled and he didn't want to have to pay the stone engravers for two trips. But his wife, Berlean Burris is still very much alive (I hope she doesn't renounce god between now and her death).

Now, I've been to exactly two funerals in my life. In my socio-economic class growing up death was not something you planned for it was simply something you dealt with when it happened. But this strikes me as an extremely odd thing. Or am I, like with giving Christmas tips to your mailman, just clueless?