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Strangler Lewis 06-29-2009 08:45 PM

Perhaps a side note, but I assume that if the Chief Justice of the Honduran Supreme Court had been a friend of Hugo Chavez, the WSJ would be calling the president a hero and saying that Bill Pullman should play him in the movie.

scaeagles 06-30-2009 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 289564)
What evidence do you have of that? Did they try to arrest him? Did they try to try him for his crimes?

Should the military be sent to remove those in charge of the Connecticut firefighters because they've just been found to be in violation of Constitutional law by the Supreme Court?

Evidence of what? I have been speaking in conjecture this whole time, not asserting anything other than the President has indeed not followed the rulings of the supreme court.

I don't suppose the people in Connecticut will go against the ruling of the Supreme Court, so your point is ridiculous at best. I don't think I've even implied anywhere that actions being found to be unconstitutional is worthy of arrest. Not abiding by the ruling of the court, certainly so.

Alex, what you are saying makes complete sense. Like I said, I'm not in support of the military action....I am just wondering how best to deal with this situation when it appears that the President would seem not to care about his actions being ruled to have been in violation of the Constitution.

Alex 06-30-2009 08:15 AM

That's a fair question now that we've moved beyond being concerned that Obama is supporting the existing president (like I've said I have no idea if he does so much as strongly opposes the military ousting him).

And I'm not saying that military intervention should never happen under and circumstance but I do think it is pretty much the last option on the list and even then should be condemned and forced back out of the picture as soon as possible (kind of like I can understand situations in which I sympathize with a parent mudering the killer of their child but that parent still should probably go to jail).

I can't really see the fact that the president was trying to hold a non-binding poll proposition (even if the issue being polled was entirely unconsitutional according to Honduras's somewhat bizaar emphaticism on signle presidential terms) had reached that point. No lives were at risk, the fundamental institutions of state weren't at risk. If he had tried to hold power beyond his elected term (or in defiance of proper early removal from office) then things get more serious.

Snowflake 06-30-2009 11:39 AM

Looks like Al Franken (Me, Al Franken) will finally be sworn in as Senator from Minnesota. The Supreme Court just shot down Norm Coleman. About time this got resolved.

Ghoulish Delight 06-30-2009 11:44 AM

The true absurdity is that when Coleman thought he was going to win, he called on Franken to graciously step aside and not be a sore loser. Seriously.

Snowflake 06-30-2009 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 289639)
The true absurdity is that when Coleman thought he was going to win, he called on Franken to graciously step aside and not be a sore loser. Seriously.

Of course, I expect Coleman will take this all the way to the Federal SC level.

Snowflake 06-30-2009 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 289641)
Of course, I expect Coleman will take this all the way to the Federal SC level.

Snowflake = FAIL

Coleman conceded, finally.

innerSpaceman 06-30-2009 03:05 PM

Does Franken get an extra half-year on his term?

SacTown Chronic 07-01-2009 03:31 PM

The good governor needs to chuck it all and get down to Argentina to be with his soul mate. Don't try to fall in love with the wife again -- it aint gonna happen. Just go. Walk that Appalachian Trail to his heart's content.

alphabassettgrrl 07-01-2009 09:48 PM

While I might be inclined to forgive an indiscretion, when someone says someone else is his "soul mate" and he's "trying to fall back in love with his wife" -

Don't bother.


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