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JWBear 09-03-2009 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 297568)
And now this thread isn't safe for anyone but Kevy... and maybe CM.

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Alex 09-03-2009 10:15 PM

If you'd like to contact the actual teachers who are the current Teaching Ambassador Fellows who produced these creepy documents, you can find them here. This guy, in particular, I suspect of promoting a subliminal Zionist agenda through teaching aide materials. She's an obvious member of the East Coast Elite trying to indoctrinate our nation's children - she used cognizant in a sentenc.e

BarTopDancer 09-03-2009 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 297568)
And now this thread isn't safe for anyone but Kevy... and maybe CM.

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 297572)
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Ya, I have no idea what happened. I swore i posted this in the Wal-Mart thread.

Motorboat Cruiser 09-03-2009 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 297549)
My kids go to a private school and it has already been announced the elementary school will not be viewing it.

Considering the speech is going to be made available to parents and educators prior to being aired, I find it completely inappropriate and irresponsible for a school, private or otherwise, to decide beforehand that they aren't going to let students view it, without so much as reading it first and seeing if anything objectionable is even contained within.

That's far more creepy to me than anything you have pointed out, far more creepy. I would have no choice but to remove my child from such an institution immediately, regardless of their merits.

wendybeth 09-03-2009 11:28 PM

MBC, my kid's homeschool group is full of this sort of 'thinking'. The parents run around all freaked out about the latest attack on their child's innocence, rarely bothering to ever check it out for themselves. (Harry Potter is a good example). The viciousness of their attacks on Obama is astounding- yet few can actually point to anything he's actually done and cite that as the reason for their alarm. When confronted with facts, it's usually a vague sort of "Well, there's just something about him I don't like/trust." We all know what that something is- it's the skincolor their God gave him. I wonder why they don't ever consider that perhaps their God planned for him to be President? Why not- everything else in their lives is ordained by God- yet they are so reluctant to accept their elected leader. Forget about acceptance; just laying off on the assasination 'jokes' would be a nice change.

Motorboat Cruiser 09-03-2009 11:59 PM

To be fair, while I'm certain that a significant portion of distrust stems from racism, I don't think that's the only reason. Nor do I suspect that is where Scaeagles mistrust stems from.

Still, this unjustified paranoia is growing at an alarming rate, fueled by endless emails and television punditry. And perhaps my biggest fear is that one of the moonbat extremists of the party, or a group of them, are going to be riled up by this misinformation to the point that they take matters into their own hands. I sincerely fear that the time is coming where there is going to be blood on the hands of everyone propagating these rumors and misinformation, and yet, they will refuse to consider that they played any role or hold any responsibility for what took place.

The abortion doctor being shot, the Holocaust Museum shooting - just the tip of the iceberg. Threats against the President of the United States have increased 400% since Obama took office. I'm pretty firmly convinced that the next act of terrorism that this country sees will be domestic and from someone who self-affiliates with the Republican party. I hope I'm wrong.

Strangler Lewis 09-04-2009 02:30 AM

The elementary school indoctrination experience.

"How was school today?"
"Good."
"Anything interesting happen?"
"Zachary's mom brought cupcakes. Emily fell at recess."
"Wasn't today President Obama's speech?"
"Yeah."
"Did your class watch it?"
"Yeah."
"How was it?"
"Good."
"What did he talk about?"
"Stuff."
"Like?"

Crickets.

"Were you listening?"
"Yeah." Pause. "I guess he talked about x."
"What do you think about that?"
"I don't know. Good, I guess."

And now . . . the great teachable moment.

"You know, the president, the governor, all these politicians, the priest/rabbi: they're just people. We hope they mean well, but they can be wrong. So you always have to think about what they say."
"Okay."

scaeagles 09-04-2009 04:58 AM

I'm glad it's available. I was not aware of that.

Moonbats taking things into their own hands....like the guy in Colorado who vandalized a democrat party office to try to make it look like Republicans did it? Or the other guy who bit off the pinky of an Obamacare protester? Would you say that the US Army soldier who took a grenade into the barracks a few years ago and blew up a bunch of people was inspired by those on the left protesting the war? Perhaps John Kerry who was saying we were terrorizing women and children in the dark of night and killing innocent civilians? Does he get the blame?

I come from the old fashioned school where the individual is responsible for their own actions.

All that being said, I need to read what he's planning on saying in his speech. I do not find my distrust of him unreasonable, and MBC, I appreciate that you know it does not stem from racism.

Mousey Girl 09-04-2009 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 297553)
I don't trust Obama in the least. I can't tell you in advance what I would object to because I haven't heard it. It depends on what he says. My younger childern wouldn't necessarily get certain nuances that could certainly exist in what he says.

What I object to specifically about what the department of ed sent out is the proposal that students write essays about how they can help Obama. That's creepy. Like I said, I don't object to it if my younger children listen to it, but I want to be there so I can discuss with them any problems that I have with it. Something tells me if after the Iraq invasion Bush addressed school children and about whatever and the department of ed sent this out the left would be absolutely howling. And rightfully so.

I totally agree with you. Last night, during The Boy's BTS night, I made sure that his school would NOT be showing this speech. If his school had decided to show it, he would not be going to school on Tuesday.

If it was just the speech, I would still object, but he would go to school. When I read about the stuff that is being sent out with the speech, I got upset.

I don't get into the political side of things very often. I do NOT think Obama is a good president. I did not vote for him. He is over stepping his power every chance he gets.

The crap he has pulled with his "Stimulus" package, and how it is affecting my parents and other retirerees is horrid.

I am ready for him to go now.

Alex 09-04-2009 05:37 AM

Talk about overstepping his power, when I was in high school how is it that JFK had been dead for 25 years and was still somehow making me do shuttle runs twice a year?


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