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scaeagles 04-27-2006 09:12 PM

Well, you don't have to watch Fox, now do you, WB?

A moderate press secretary? A press secretary is supposed to go out an answer questions for the administration. You should pick someone who can articulate your positions willingly and effectively. Snow was a great choice, as he knows the members of the press already and also knows about the inner workings of the Presidency, having worked for Bush Sr.

sleepyjeff 04-27-2006 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth
I think Bush missed an opportunity to turn things around for him by appointing Snow. He already has the conservatives (largely) in his corner- he really needs to reach out to all Americans, not just the conservatives, and he could have chosen a more moderate person to do so.

The reason his poll numbers are down so far is not because liberals all the sudden started disliking him.....it's because he was losing support from conservatives. Snow was an excellent choice. Try to hold on to those who are predisposed to like you rather than go after those who never will no matter what.

wendybeth 04-27-2006 10:41 PM

HIs support couldn't possibly be eroding due to people actually starting to think for themselves, could it? Do you really believe that everyone is leaving because he's not conservative enough?

And Scaeagles, I made an observation, that's all. He is under no obligation to try and reach out to people like me, but it might have been wise to try- you can bet there will be others who will in the coming elections. And I am under no obligation to watch Fox news- in fact, I don't. I read it on the net- I don't watch tv. I read many sources, and question all of them- not just Fox. I find it interesting that the same people who are so very vocal about the liberal bias in mainstream media have no probs when it's biased to their viewpoint- I disdain any discernable bias, but I know it's inevitable. I get equally cranky at CNN and MSNBC, but at least they don't look like the National Enquirer. (Usually).

sleepyjeff 04-27-2006 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth
HIs support couldn't possibly be eroding due to people actually starting to think for themselves, could it? Do you really believe that everyone is leaving because he's not conservative enough?

Who was thinking for these people before?

Why are these people just now "starting to think for themselves"?

Were the people who supported him before and now don't non-conservatives?

-----------Yes, I really do believe that his support is/was eroding mainly due to his(Bush) lack of conservatism.

wendybeth 04-27-2006 11:50 PM

I seem to recall a few dems in the congress and senate who fell in line for the war.

I also know more than a few private citizens who voted for Bush who are very, very disappointed with him.

It's really too bad that it has become so 'us' against 'them'- last time I checked we were all Americans. I don't look for the divide to narrow anytime soon.

Gemini Cricket 04-28-2006 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles
Well, you don't have to watch Fox, now do you, WB?

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During a briefing led by White House spokesman Scott McClellan as President Bush was traveling to New Orleans, Louisiana, the Washington Post's Jim VandeHei asked why the White House televisions always seemed to be tuned to Fox News and if it was possible to have them tuned instead to CNN.
Source
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scaeagles 04-28-2006 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth
I also know more than a few private citizens who voted for Bush who are very, very disappointed with him.

Count me among them. But I have always thought for myself.

I don't care about poll numbers, but I agree with SleepyJeff.

Do I wish I had voted for Kerry instead? Not in a heartbeat. Instead of Bush disappointing me in 2.5 of my 4 (possibly 5) areas of major importance (one he isn't totally blowing it, but isn't doing great in), I'd be looking at a big zero.

Gemini Cricket 04-28-2006 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles
Do I wish I had voted for Kerry instead? Not in a heartbeat. Instead of Bush disappointing me in 2.5 of my 4 (possibly 5) areas of major importance (one he isn't totally blowing it, but isn't doing great in), I'd be looking at a big zero.

And you know that... how?

I didn't vote for Bush but I don't know what our country would look like today under Kerry. But all I can really do is wonder. I can't definitely say it would be better or worse. To say it would definitely be either is playing partisan politics. No one really knows.

scaeagles 04-28-2006 06:27 AM

First of all, I didn't relate it to the country, I related my non vote for Kerry to my areas of importance. For example, I like the Bush tax policy. Do I think for a second that Kerry adapts that tax policy? Wouldn't happen.

Of course, I happen to think that tax policy is best for the country.

Do I think Kerry would spend less? No. I think (and have said it many times here) that Bush spends too much. Way too much. I don't see Kerry being any different.

Do I know what Kerry would have done? No. Do I have a pretty good idea what he'd have done based on his record and campaign? Yes.

Scrooge McSam 04-28-2006 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepyjeff
Were the people who supported him before and now don't non-conservatives?

Possibly. It's become painfully obvious to me that most people pay no more attention to our politicians and leaders than what is spoon fed to them 30 minutes before they have dinner.


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