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wendybeth 09-07-2009 10:32 AM

Wow- pretty subversive stuff. It's ironic that parents are keeping their kids home, given the main theme of the speech: Obama's Speech to Schoolchildren .

Strangler Lewis 09-07-2009 10:46 AM

"My ancestors didn't come to this country and sacrifice for their children so that some smartass from Indonesia could tell my children they're supposed to be better than me."

Gemini Cricket 09-07-2009 11:24 AM

I just read Obama's speech. Despite being long-winded, I thought it was a great message for kids to hear.

BarTopDancer 09-07-2009 12:06 PM

It's totally going to turn kids into Socialists and will be directly related to the failure of America. Oh and look! He admitted he lived in Indonesia when he was a kid. He must not be a US Citizen.


I see kids tuning out about a third of the way through.

Alex 09-07-2009 06:43 PM

Well, in a surprising turn of events, Obama's speech contains content I don't consider particularly appropriate for the classroom.

I'm sure it isn't hard to guess which part (not that I am so offended that I'd protest the speech).

scaeagles 09-08-2009 06:17 AM

For full disclosure, I did get this link off of the Drudge report. I guess politics gets played on both sides of the aisle, with Dems even holding hearings into GHW Bush's speech to students.

I have read Obama's speech and don't find anything in it really problematic. My concern now is the political spin that will be obvious (both directions, though I suspect that most teachers do lean left) in the lessons surrounding the speech.

BarTopDancer 09-08-2009 07:33 AM

Newt Gingrich was on the Today show this morning saying it was a good speech and all kids should listen/read it.

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 297911)
I have read Obama's speech and don't find anything in it really problematic. My concern now is the political spin that will be obvious (both directions, though I suspect that most teachers do lean left) in the lessons surrounding the speech.

It must be exhausting being so paranoid all the time.

I couldn't tell you what way ANY of my teachers leaned and we had political integration in school (I was in school during election years and we discussed it).

scaeagles 09-08-2009 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 297914)
Newt Gingrich was on the Today show this morning saying it was a good speech and all kids should listen/read it.


Wow....I didn't realize you were such a Newt fan.

And uh, I think I just posted that I saw nothing in the speech objectionable. Did you read that?

With this kind of stuff - and I suppose if I have to I'll post other links to blatant bias - I can't imagine why I'd be paranoid.

Anecdotal? Certainly. Could you perhaps find links with a conservative bent? I'm sure (I did say there could be bias either way).

BarTopDancer 09-08-2009 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 297915)
Wow....I didn't realize you were such a Newt fan.

I'm not a Newt fan, nor is he an Obama fan. Which is my point. Someone who is such a prominent figure in the Republican party is saying that the speech is good and should be heard.

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And uh, I think I just posted that I saw nothing in the speech objectionable. Did you read that?
You may have said nothing in the speech was objectionable but now you're worried about teachers putting a bias on their lesson plans.

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Originally Posted by scaeagles
. My concern now is the political spin that will be obvious (both directions, though I suspect that most teachers do lean left) in the lessons surrounding the speech.


scaeagles 09-08-2009 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 297919)
You may have said nothing in the speech was objectionable but now you're worried about teachers putting a bias on their lesson plans.

Not now. I believe the lesson plans that accompanied it were part of my original problems and was stated as such. Having read the speech, I am fine with it (though I think it is long winded and rather boring and students are going to tune out). This part of my objection stands.

I do realize that I said "now" in what you quoted, and I realize that was misleading in making it seem as if it has only just become a part of my concern. Sorry for the confusion.


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