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JWBear 09-13-2009 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 298625)
I completely disagree that a vast majority is racially motivated.

I (and many others) see them as crowds of angry white people who are frothing because the President is black. Your mileage may vary. <shrug>

Gemini Cricket 09-13-2009 10:05 PM

I honestly do believe that a lot of these protests against Obama's health care plans have more to do with hate of Obama the black president than the health care issue itself. I don't see a lot of people of color at these marches. In the vast majority of the footage that I have seen on CNN, MSNBC, Fox "News" the protesters are white. I think people need to get over it, he's president, let it go.
It's like the people who hide behind their religion to discriminate against gay marriage. They don't give a sh!t about marriage, they hate gay people. You can say it's one thing and mean another.

wendybeth 09-13-2009 10:38 PM

I agree completely, GC.

BarTopDancer 09-13-2009 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket (Post 298632)
I honestly do believe that a lot of these protests against Obama's health care plans have more to do with hate of Obama the black president than the health care issue itself.

And I bet a lot of those same white people voted for him to begin with!

He wasn't elected by a slim margin.

JWBear 09-13-2009 11:12 PM

Trust me, BTD... None of these people voted for him.

BarTopDancer 09-13-2009 11:19 PM

What we have doesn't work. Something needs to be done. What it is, I don't know but what the current Administration is trying to do is fix something that is broken. I get resistance to change - but Obama's campaign promised "change", he was elected and now people are pitching a fit over "change". You can't have it both ways.

I've been on all spectrum of insurance: "good insurance" (Blue Cross), "government insurance" (MediCal) and no insurance.

When I had no insurance I was lucky enough to live in a city that had a stellar community clinic where I could get excellent care for little to no money. Not all cities are like that.

The worst was MediCal, which I paid nothing for and few doctors would take it. They wouldn't cover my allergy medication without a fight, or the few antibiotics that my Dr. prescribed because I am extremely allergic to nearly everything out there (and anything that ends in 'cillin').

"Good insurance" isn't always good. I've had the same fights with them over coverage.

Because of my experience with MediCal I am hesitant to see a truly "government" program. But something has to give.

So while what I have now, or will have in a few months will be "good insurance" I am well aware that it's far from perfect and millions of others aren't as fortunate, and are uninsured.

JWBear 09-14-2009 08:37 AM

You can thank our "wonderful" State Legislature for the fvcked up mess that is Medi-Cal. It's more an example of how bad things are in California rather than what a federal public option plan would be.

Medicare works just fine (except for Part D - W and a Republican controlled Congress's attempt to kill off the old and disabled through pure confusion and frustration).

CoasterMatt 09-14-2009 08:45 AM

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Well, I figured this would be as good a place as any for this...

I've got a new picture for the happy right wing conservative message boards-

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scaeagles 09-14-2009 08:58 AM

Ummm....why is that a problem when the same things were done with images of Bush during his administration? Was it OK because Bush was white? Is it only a problem because it is being done to Obama?

Alex 09-14-2009 09:11 AM

No, I found the Bush/Hitler stuff just as vile, and worse as thoroughly empty of content.

Though they do serve a purpose. The people who did such things then and do such things now helpfully identify themselves as idiots.


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