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alphabassettgrrl 09-11-2011 08:34 PM

I've spent the day avoiding media. I don't need to be reminded of the horror. I don't need to be reminded to "never forget". I was supposed to go to our city's ceremony today as part of the volunteer group to which I belong, but I just can't face the obligatory patriotism, to hear again the songs they *always* play, the flags.... just no.

I heard it said that to heal from a trauma, you kind of have to forget and that makes a lot of sense to me. Not forget in a way to pretend it never happened, but forget the sheer force of it, the overwhelming feelings, the fact that it was traumatizing. Some distance is good sometimes, and in order to avoid seeing boogeymen around every corner, I'm doing a tiny bit of forgetting.

BarTopDancer 09-11-2011 08:43 PM

People invoke 9/11 so often that it became another catch phrase and is trite. I think we'd all be good to remember how we felt that day, how we, as a country pulled together to support each other and try to heal the divide that has overtaken the nation on both sides. It shouldn't be the right against the left and it's disgusting that we have gone down this path. If it doesn't stop we will have destroyed ourselves. Or maybe that's what the terrorists wanted, to light the fuse that will cause us to implode.

Ghoulish Delight 09-11-2011 08:44 PM

Coverage during football was actually somewhat less annoying than I anticipated. The worst part was actually one of the ads that was referencing it (don't recall what it was for). For some reason they felt the need to show several closeups of the Statue of Liberty's armpit.

No, I take that back. The worst of it was the Anheuser Busch ad where the Clydsdales kneel/bow in front of NYC. Ew.

Alex 09-11-2011 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 351841)
But I don't seem to be in the mood for such an intense movie. Funny, I never seen to be in the mood to watch that film. Purchased it. Never in the mood to watch it. Heh.

Have you seen it at all? It really is well made and I respect the hell out of it, but I don't really expect I'll ever see it again.

Gn2Dlnd 09-11-2011 10:56 PM

Today, at my farmer's mkt.:

1) One of the hummus guys, Mehdi is his name, asked me if I was celebrating 9/11. Shocked, I asked him what he meant by "celebrating." He said, "Do you believe in 9/11?," to which I replied, "Uh, yeah, 9/11 happened..." He said, "Well, do you think some guys, or the Taliban or something crashed the airplanes, or do you think it was an inside job?," all the while grinning at me in a way that told me his opinion would likely differ from mine. This is a guy who I've been friendly with over the years, and I was a little thrown. I dropped my helpful I-must-be-misunderstanding-you attitude, and said, "Yes, I believe those planes were crashed by exactly who we were told crashed them, and no I don't believe that our government decided to crash a few planes full of people for no good reason. I also don't think that the people of Afghanistan had anything to do with it, but George Bush and his gang made some decisions I don't agree with." As my voice was slightly raised by this point, he then beat a hasty retreat. I'm left to wonder how common is the belief in some secret governmental conspiracy regarding 9/11.

2) A customer I recognize was kind of "stuck" in front of my table for a while. After I ran out of friendly chit-chat, I asked him if the people he was waiting for had ditched him, ha-ha. He told me that he had just walked out of church in the middle of the sermon because the pastor was telling a modernized version of the story of Joseph and his brothers, at one point comparing someone in the story's behavior with the Taliban. My customer's story started escalating to the point that he started bring up some of the horrible imagery of 9/11, at which point I had to stop him, saying, "Look, I understand you're upset, but I'm incredibly sensitive about this stuff. I really can't have this conversation with you." He apologized, I felt a little bad for not being able to let him vent, but he seemed to understand. I suggested that he talk to his Pastor after he cools down, let him know how his sermon made him feel. He was obviously distressed, but he thanked me, and told me I was a "good man."

I did not turn on the news, not even KNX for traffic or NPR for the hourly update. I worked my mkt., went up to Universal and ate BBQ'd chicken for dinner, and went to my meeting. Unless there's an earthquake, I don't expect to turn on any news sources until tomorrow. That's how I spent my 9/11/11.

Strangler Lewis 09-12-2011 06:11 AM

Not sure I need to see it again, but I liked the Clydesdale ad when it came out at the time.

innerSpaceman 09-12-2011 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 351847)
Have you seen it at all? It really is well made and I respect the hell out of it, but I don't really expect I'll ever see it again.

Yeah, I saw it in theaters. A very well-made movie and I tend to like films that handle real-life drama in a decent manner. This one qualifies, so I purchased it - but have yet to watch the DVD. Never been in the mood to potentially get really upset - - and yesterday's anniversary was no exception.

Ghoulish Delight 09-12-2011 08:27 AM

I'm disappointed to learn that access to the WTC memorial site is by ticketed appointment and involves full airport-style security screening. I do hope that is only a temporary thing while it's new and will be drawing huge crowds that would overwhelm it. Because the irony in that is painful.

alphabassettgrrl 09-12-2011 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 351792)
Holy sh*t I think Herman Cain has just applied for and gotten an offer for the job of conductor of the crazy train. I can't express how unhinged I now think he is to think this was a touching, patriotic thing to do.

ETA: Not that I had a high regard to begin with...

Watched this today. I think the crassness of "9/11 - vote for me" took some of the emotional sting out of it for me.

It is a bizarre thing to think is good.

He has a reasonable singing voice, though.

innerSpaceman 09-12-2011 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 351855)
I'm disappointed to learn that access to the WTC memorial site is by ticketed appointment and involves full airport-style security screening. I do hope that is only a temporary thing while it's new and will be drawing huge crowds that would overwhelm it. Because the irony in that is painful.

Irony? I'm not seeing it. You don't think there should be airport-style security to a site with the biggest Terrorist target on it? Or are you referring to the limited entry? I hope there will be no need for that sometime in the future, but for now they are limiting the space to 1500 people at a time. I don't think there's anything wrong with that limit, or with acknowledging that allowing 5000 people to cram in to that space would tend to defeat the comptemplative purpose of most of those visits.


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